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#1 Petoria

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 06:39 PM

Ultimate Bet 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is UTG with [Kd], [Ad]. Hero raises, Hero calls.Flop: (7.50 SB) [Ah], [Qd], [2d] (2 players)Hero bets, Hero calls.Turn: (7.75 BB) [8d] (2 players)Hero bets, Hero calls.River: (15.75 BB) [2s] (2 players)Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 17.75 BBUTG+2 is a TAGIs it reasonable to cap the flop? Too weak on the river or do you think it is as obvious as i do?
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Posted 20 May 2005 - 06:43 PM

I need sleep and I'm slightly drunk so my post is deleted
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Posted 20 May 2005 - 06:45 PM

No preflop cap with suited slick?Well, let's see, what would he 3-bet preflop and play this way that you're ahead of? AQ, MAYBE. That's about it, really. The fact he didn't slow down when the flush draw got there is interesting, though maybe he figured you weren't on the draw with how you played the flop (Or was confident enough in his boat/quad outs).Flop is fine; I'll 3-bet TPTK and a flush draw til the cows come home.Nicely played.

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 06:45 PM

I have the nuts on the turn. Why would I just call? In response to allinbluff.
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#5 MrNiceGuy

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 06:46 PM

I'd cap the flop. River looks fine to me - I'm surprised he'd cap the turn on that board with just a set, but he can't have a flush given his preflop raise. Tough beat.
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Posted 20 May 2005 - 06:46 PM

allinbluff35 said:

i would have just called the raise on the turn then check/called the river UI
Um....you do see he has the nuts on the turn, right? It's going to be difficult for him to improve from there. :D

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 06:48 PM

My question is, does anybody lead the river here?
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Posted 20 May 2005 - 06:51 PM

i edited my post because I'm somewhat inebriated
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Posted 20 May 2005 - 06:52 PM

That looks fine. Capping preflop is player dependent, but when out of position I tend to only call as well.Flop: Good 3-betTurn: Yay for the nutsRiver: Boo for the board pairing.Leading on the river is questionable at best. Versus a TAG opponent, you played it fine. More than likely he filled up with AA or QQ but having the nut flush in such a huge pot requires you to call. Versus a looser opponent I bet and call a raise here.Nicely playedZara

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 06:53 PM

allinbluff35 said:

i edited my post because I'm somewhat inebriated
Note to all in bluff from personal experience:poker + alcohol = -EV
The path
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And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those
who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.
And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 06:55 PM

Well, like I said, unless he 3-bet AQ (Which is a bit overaggressive presuming he respects your UTG raise), he has a set (Now a boat) enough times that I like the c/c.

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 06:56 PM

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allinbluff35 said:

i edited my post because I'm somewhat inebriated
Note to all in bluff from personal experience:poker + alcohol = -EV
I have actually kept track of drunk sessions and I'm up around $1500 over 6 sessions of NL while playing completely hammered, plus it's really amusing to watch monkeys make fun of each other on the internet
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Posted 20 May 2005 - 06:58 PM

allinbluff35 said:

Petoria said:

allinbluff35 said:

i edited my post because I'm somewhat inebriated
Note to all in bluff from personal experience:poker + alcohol = -EV
I have actually kept track of drunk sessions and I'm up around $1500 over 6 sessions of NL while playing completely hammered, plus it's really amusing to watch monkeys make fun of each other on the internet
I guess the poker gods want us to drink at the table. I stand corrected. :roll:
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men. Blessed is he who, in the
name of charity and good will,
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of lost children.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those
who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers.
And you will know my name is the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 07:02 PM

Petoria said:

I guess the poker gods want us to drink at the table.  I stand corrected. :roll:
Of course, look at Scotty and Men Nguyen (and older Layne Flack's) :D Zara

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 07:07 PM

Petoria said:

allinbluff35 said:

Petoria said:

allinbluff35 said:

i edited my post because I'm somewhat inebriated
Note to all in bluff from personal experience:poker + alcohol = -EV
I have actually kept track of drunk sessions and I'm up around $1500 over 6 sessions of NL while playing completely hammered, plus it's really amusing to watch monkeys make fun of each other on the internet
I guess the poker gods want us to drink at the table. I stand corrected. :roll:
i'm not saying it's good to play while drunk but it's fun and amusing and if I lose a few bucks while doing it meh
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Posted 20 May 2005 - 07:24 PM

so what did he end up having?

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 07:26 PM

What's a TAG?

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Posted 20 May 2005 - 07:31 PM

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What's a TAG?
Tight AGgressiveand the guy had AA
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Posted 20 May 2005 - 07:56 PM

Petoria said:

allinbluff35 said:

i edited my post because I'm somewhat inebriated
Note to all in bluff from personal experience:poker + alcohol = -EV
Poker + alcohol + severe alcoholism and the ability to do everything drunk even work and go to school and shit and hang out with your girlfriend = mildly positive EVHooray!Ice




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