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[pokerkid]

.10/.25 on bodog again. Stacks are effectively 100bb deep.

One limper, I have Qs10s in the Hijack. I raise to $1. Button calls. Limper calls.

Pot = $3

Flop: Js 8s 4h

Checked to me. I bet $3. Both call.

Pot = $12

Turn: Kc

Checked to me... I bet pot?

[tskillz187]

I'd probably bet $7ish and set myself up for a river shove, or I'd check. Would be helpful to have some info on villains. Checkign is reasonable on turn as well

[Temporary Nuts]

with 2 calls betting is pointless except as a blocker bet.

Slow down, check, and you'll almost always have the odds to see the river

[pokerkid]

I feel like the K is a perfect card to bluff. I want naked Js to fold.

Plus, if I check to the button and he bets $6-$10 and I'm calling, shouldn't I just bet it anyways?

I feel like 88 raises this flop and the ONLY hand I really have to worry about is KJ...

Fancy Play Syndrome? I feel like people play so tight, being aggro with my draws is the best way to exploit it...

[tskillz187]

I didn't even realize you had a flush draw, you need hand histories and converters! Hard to read. But if you want to bet the turn, bet it $7 so you can triple barrel ldo. Potting turn is rough because you can't make him fold on the river. If you bet 7 on turn you have a $15 bet on river to shove in there at a $25ish pot.

Much harder to call twice with a J then.

And you're right the K is a good card to bluff, just gotta make sure you're against villains that have a fold button. Most of the time at $25nl making hands and betting hard is the way to go.

[DocHoliday]

I would check / call if button bets... Perhaps you will miss, but I do think there are some cards, especially our str8 outs that, if they hit, we can actually overshove all in into him and get paid. At this level people are crazy about "catching bluffs". This does depend a lot on a villain, but sometimes I take this approach and it can pay handsomely.

[trystero]

What's w/all the PSBs? Bet tailored to texture and situation, etc

Here, on the flop, you're blocking the FD so you're probably only being called by a jack - so betting $2 accomplishes the same thing as $3. On the turn you get a good card to barrel, you're right, but again you don't have to pot it to do so. Price yourself in a bit by making it like $7. You'll get credit, as you're betting into two people, so unless someone slowplayed a set or improved to two pair, a raise is unlikely. You probably won't fold out a jack (tho it happens sometimes), but you'll get many people to fold worse pairs.

I don't recommend a 3-barrel against an unknown at this limit

[pokerkid]

What's w/all the PSBs? Bet tailored to texture and situation, etc

Here, on the flop, you're blocking the FD so you're probably only being called by a jack - so betting $2 accomplishes the same thing as $3. On the turn you get a good card to barrel, you're right, but again you don't have to pot it to do so. Price yourself in a bit by making it like $7. You'll get credit, as you're betting into two people, so unless someone slowplayed a set or improved to two pair, a raise is unlikely. You probably won't fold out a jack (tho it happens sometimes), but you'll get many people to fold worse pairs.

I don't recommend a 3-barrel against an unknown at this limit

I think I get a J to fold with two big bets but not necessarily with two smaller bets. I agree head's up I would've bet $7 on the turn but three-way I really wanted to take it down right there.

[pokerkid]

I didn't even realize you had a flush draw, you need hand histories and converters! Hard to read. But if you want to bet the turn, bet it $7 so you can triple barrel ldo. Potting turn is rough because you can't make him fold on the river. If you bet 7 on turn you have a $15 bet on river to shove in there at a $25ish pot.

Much harder to call twice with a J then.

And you're right the K is a good card to bluff, just gotta make sure you're against villains that have a fold button. Most of the time at $25nl making hands and betting hard is the way to go.

Anyone know of a site that converts bodog hand histories... for those who haven't played there, they're not exactly standard histories by any means.

I actually stopped posting in strat for a while because of having to convert by hand, but flopturnriver.com and the likes cannot convert them I don't think.

[mtdesmoines]

with 2 calls betting is pointless except as a blocker bet.
Slow down, check, and you'll almost always have the odds to see the river

Yeah, you prob need to make a hand.

I didn't even realize you had a flush draw, you need hand histories and converters! Hard to read. But if you want to bet the turn, bet it $7 so you can triple barrel ldo. Potting turn is rough because you can't make him fold on the river. If you bet 7 on turn you have a $15 bet on river to shove in there at a $25ish pot.

Much harder to call twice with a J then.

And you're right the K is a good card to bluff, just gotta make sure you're against villains that have a fold button. Most of the time at $25nl making hands and betting hard is the way to go.

I'm assuming with multiple villains in hand, someone is not folding. We need to make a hand.