Aces, Rr Pf

[Frez 0]

Sorry, iPoker hand so no converter...GAME #1622078074: Omaha PL $0.25/$0.50 2009-05-18 22:36:31Table Plastere (No DP)Seat 1: 6666 ($50.17 in chips)Seat 3: pre ($16.64 in chips)Seat 5: BoostJ16 ($61.03 in chips)Seat 6: Frez ($49.00 in chips)Seat 8: red ($112.91 in chips) DEALERSeat 10: gec ($99.66 in chips)gecco001: Post SB $0.25666DAemonDave666: Post BB $0.50*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to FrezTane :adDealt to redbul007 []pretiltfish: FoldBoosterJ16: FoldFrezTane: Raise (NF) $1.75redbul007: Raise (NF) $6.00gecco001: Fold666DAemonDave666: FoldFrezTane: Call $4.25*** FLOP *** :8cHero:a ) donksb ) c/cc ) c/rd ) c/f

[DocHoliday 0]

Well, there are several options here, at least the way I see it. It would all depend on your opponent type though. There is a flush draw on the table, and you are holding Ac, so c/c and leading out on a turn club could perhaps be a good play. You also have an inside str8 draw, so all in all, although this is not the board that actually gives you that much, it does give you a lot of playing possibilities. Way I am playing this one, again depending on the opponent, is either come over the top of his raise pf, or c/c or c/r the flop depending on the texture. Of course, there are some situations that could make you fold. My play here is definitely c/c and then reevaluating on turn. I am for sure not ready to fold just yet, and c/r can get you in a dangerous spot, if he comes over the top... But I guess you'll get better insights from better players, and I will as well

[meservery 0]

4 bet preflop. I'm terrible at figuring out what a pot sized raise is, but i think its around 20 dollars. I think getting 40% of your stack in makes the flop play easier. I think its gonna be tough to play a lot of flops OOP when we still have lots of money behind postflop.

[antistuff 0]

this flop is ok for you to get it in on i think. i would lead or c/r depending on the player.but like mserv said since you're able to get a decent amount of your stack in just keep raising preflop.

[antneye 0]

I would have 4-bet the pot preflop. As played, we can absolutely expect a C-bet heads up in a 3-bet pot so I would C/R and expect to take this down on the flop quite often. If he comes over the top we are behind, but have outs.

[Frez 0]

These aces aren't strong enough to 4 bet pre-flop. It's close, I would have if I could have gotten half my stack in.As was, I check raised the flop all in. He can't have the nut flush draw - only a set has me in very bad shape.

[JoblessBast 0]

These aces aren't strong enough to 4 bet pre-flop. It's close, I would have if I could have gotten half my stack in.

What are your requirements for "strong enough" aces to repot here?

[Frez 0]

What are your requirements for "strong enough" aces to repot here?

As for the Aces them selves, almost anything double suited. Single suited I'd like at least one big kicker (and the kickers at least vaguely connected). Unsuited I'm always flatting OOP.And also, if the stacks were a little smaller or if there had been a caller in between so my repot could have been larger, I would have 4 bet then (like I siad, getting at least half the stack in).

[antistuff 0]

As for the Aces them selves, almost anything double suited. Single suited I'd like at least one big kicker (and the kickers at least vaguely connected). Unsuited I'm always flatting OOP.And also, if the stacks were a little smaller or if there had been a caller in between so my repot could have been larger, I would have 4 bet then (like I siad, getting at least half the stack in).

but you're always going to have trouble playing aces like that oop in a 3 bet pot. i would think just bloat the pot so the only mistake you can really make is folding.

[KingJames 11]

Well, there are several options here, at least the way I see it. It would all depend on your opponent type though. There is a flush draw on the table, and you are holding Ac, so c/c and leading out on a turn club could perhaps be a good play. You also have an inside str8 draw, so all in all, although this is not the board that actually gives you that much, it does give you a lot of playing possibilities. Way I am playing this one, again depending on the opponent, is either come over the top of his raise pf, or c/c or c/r the flop depending on the texture. Of course, there are some situations that could make you fold. My play here is definitely c/c and then reevaluating on turn. I am for sure not ready to fold just yet, and c/r can get you in a dangerous spot, if he comes over the top... But I guess you'll get better insights from better players, and I will as well

Okay... So I'm not very good at PLO, but I include it in my home-game as my friends are even worse.I've dabbled a little in PLO cash online... 5c/10c. At what level do you start seeing people lay down K and Q high flush draws? OBV, there are times when you have a K or Q high flush draw, with straight draws, two pairs, etc. At 10PLO, I see people going in with just a flush draw often, profitiable for the rest of us, of course, but unorthodox, IMO???I have found myself in these situations, and I have wanted to represent it, knowing the villain doesn't have the nut flush, but have been unsuccessful...Any other advice regarding this kind of situation would be appreciated

[simo_8ball 1]

4bet pre and I don't think it's close.http://www.propokertools.com/simulator/sim...amp;h4=&h5=(For those who don't want to click, it's 52/48 in favour of AA75ss over AAxx)Factor in other premium hands he can hand and you're way ahead.Also factor in that you're OOP and flat calling sucks. If he has QJT9 or whatever, you're about 60/40 ahead, and you're very exploitable postflop.Any AAxx with a suited ace is good enough to get it in HU for 100bb, and OOP you want to minimise your positional disadvantage.