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[Nutcracker]

I'm currently working on shoring up my bigger leaks before moving to $1/2, and top pair/weak kicker hands seem to be eating me up. Here is an example, and this is pretty much how I play all my tp/wk hands. Bet when I hit and (given i'm not raised, in which case i will mostly fold) go into check/call mode UI.Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with [6s], [Kh]. 2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.Flop: (4 SB) [2s], [9d], [4h] (4 players)SB checks, Hero checks, MP1 checks, CO checks.Turn: (2 BB) [Kd] (4 players)SB checks, Hero bets, MP1 folds, CO calls, SB folds.River: (4 BB) [7d] (2 players)Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 6 BBPretty standard, or should I be value betting again on the river? nm, will start a new thread on this other scenario.

[Vade]

I think you can and should bet the river. You will get calls from pairs of 9's and 7's etc

[wrto4556]

Bet this river.**Finally! Not a fold KK preflop-Don't raise AK from the BB-Don't raise KQs from the SB thread!!!!!**

[cdddc75]

Bet that out.It's close enough to Clarkmeister's Theorem to bet on principle alone. :-)

[RonBurgundy]

instead of check/call, make your normal play here bet/call. if you like $, that is.

[KDawgCometh]

value bet that river. Other than that, nh

[MrNiceGuy]

Vade said:

I think you can and should bet the river. You will get calls from pairs of 9's and 7's etc

Normally I would agree with everybody and say bet the river, but here I'm not sure - if CO had a 9, most likely he would have bet the flop, rather than check behind on the turn. So realistically, the only hands he calls the turn with are overcards, a flush draw, or a medium pair (or another weak K, maybe).If he has overcards, and he called the turn, he'll probably call the river too, so you should bet. Ditto for 88, 66, 55, 33. But if he was on the flush draw, obviously you don't want to bet.Given that he checked behind on the flop, I think he has a flush draw more than 1/3 of the time here - if so, check-calling would be the correct play, right? Or am I overestimating the guy's chances?

[cdddc75]

MrNiceGuy said:

Vade said:

I think you can and should bet the river. You will get calls from pairs of 9's and 7's etc

Normally I would agree with everybody and say bet the river, but here I'm not sure - if CO had a 9, most likely he would have bet the flop, rather than check behind on the turn. So realistically, the only hands he calls the turn with are overcards, a flush draw, or a medium pair (or another weak K, maybe).If he has overcards, and he called the turn, he'll probably call the river too, so you should bet. Ditto for 88, 66, 55, 33. But if he was on the flush draw, obviously you don't want to bet.Given that he checked behind on the flop, I think he has a flush draw more than 1/3 of the time here - if so, check-calling would be the correct play, right? Or am I overestimating the guy's chances?

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Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em

Bet for value.

[MrNiceGuy]

cdddc75 said:

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Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em

Bet for value.

Well, I was thinking that at that limit, suited cards tend to get overplayed. (And in a better game, I wouldn't expect flush draws (except A-high ones) to call the turn getting only 3-1).

[cdddc75]

MrNiceGuy said:

cdddc75 said:

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Party Poker 0.5/1 Hold'em

Bet for value.

Well, I was thinking that at that limit, suited cards tend to get overplayed. (And in a better game, I wouldn't expect flush draws (except A-high ones) to call the turn getting only 3-1).

Suited cards do get overplayed at .5/1. So do ace high, bottom pair, middle pair, and other trash that our hero beats handily.