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#1 kidtampa

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 03:57 PM

Is this a snap call? Sorry first post and tried to find a hand converter for FTP

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CO: $23.25
BTN: $21
SB: $6.43
BB: $25
Hero (UTG): $27.92
UTG+1: $10
UTG+2: $11.56
MP1: $4.80
MP2: $17.17

Pre-Flop: K:heart: A:spade: dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $0.85, 4 folds, CO calls $0.85, BTN raises to $1.95, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.10, CO calls $1.10

Flop: ($6.20) A:diamond: K:spade: 8:spade: (3 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1, BTN calls $1, Hero raises to $7.75, CO raises to $21.30 and is All-In, BTN folds,

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:02 PM

Yes, I think this is a snap call.


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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:04 PM

Sucks that you lost to 88 but it's an instasnapshipshotcall

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:20 PM

I think for a sec "great... he has 88...I hate this site" and then snap call
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:32 PM

QUOTE (kidtampa @ Wednesday, March 25th, 2009, 3:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is this a snap call? Sorry first post and tried to find a hand converter for FTP

Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

CO: $23.25
BTN: $21
SB: $6.43
BB: $25
Hero (UTG): $27.92
UTG+1: $10
UTG+2: $11.56
MP1: $4.80
MP2: $17.17

Pre-Flop: K:heart: A:spade: dealt to Hero (UTG)
Hero raises to $0.85, 4 folds, CO calls $0.85, BTN raises to $1.95, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.10, CO calls $1.10

Flop: ($6.20) A:diamond: K:spade: 8:spade: (3 Players)
Hero checks, CO bets $1, BTN calls $1, Hero raises to $7.75, CO raises to $21.30 and is All-In, BTN folds,



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#6 kidtampa

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 04:32 PM

his actual holdings were 2 spade 3 spade.

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 05:37 PM

Wtf why did you check that flop?

And sure you don't have to snap call, there are other options. You can take your time and call, say booya in the chat and call, call your girlfriend and then call, or even take a sip of gatorade and call. All of these things are solid decisions you can make.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 05:49 PM

QUOTE (NoBBiR @ Wednesday, March 25th, 2009, 8:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wtf why did you check that flop?

And sure you don't have to snap call, there are other options. You can take your time and call, say booya in the chat and call, call your girlfriend and then call, or even take a sip of gatorade and call. All of these things are solid decisions you can make.



Checked the flop hoping to check raise. I like all of theose options but the bottom line is it is still a call. Now would you suggest reraising pre?

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 06:54 PM

I don't think a 4-bet is necessary with two others in the pot still.

Snap call definitely.
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Posted 25 March 2009 - 07:39 PM

I would probably fold because I run like shit icon_frown.gif

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Posted 25 March 2009 - 08:53 PM

QUOTE (nutzzcase @ Thursday, March 26th, 2009, 3:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I run like shit because I would probably fold icon_frown.gif


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Posted 25 March 2009 - 11:30 PM

What is the dilemma here?

You hit probably one of the best flops you could... Top two and there is flush draw on the board, so you can expect to get a lot of action at this limit. If they suckout on you, or you have run into the complete monster, so be it, it happens... But you can never fold here... I never could at least.
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Posted 26 March 2009 - 06:40 AM

I check shove the flop and then let him make the decision if he calls and the flush draw gets there oh welll but his bet on the flop doesnt scream a set it looks more like trying to get money in the pot in case the flush draw gets there and he figures you wont put any more money in the pot if that scenario happens
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Posted 26 March 2009 - 09:25 AM

Its a definite call, but I would have expect to see him flip over AA or KK (88 didn't actually occur to me). 23s...really?
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Posted 26 March 2009 - 11:24 AM

i'm not good enough to fold that, it's either 88 or a flush draw and I think I have to call either as much as the 88 would suck, nice move by the guy drawing to the nut low flush, AQs has him drawing near dead
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Posted 26 March 2009 - 12:01 PM

Tough Call. He made a pretty hefty reraise preflop, so you may be able to put him on something like pocket pair... maybe suited connectors or AK. Don't really know what type of player he is so it's hard to say. It's a call, you can't throw that away... he'll either show trips, flush or straight(Remote, but he may have stright/flush draw). Call it but hate it when you lose.

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Posted 26 March 2009 - 12:51 PM

QUOTE (mtdesmoines @ Wednesday, March 25th, 2009, 4:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You HAVE to play it this way.



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QUOTE (kidtampa @ Wednesday, March 25th, 2009, 4:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
his actual holdings were 2 spade 3 spade.



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Posted 27 March 2009 - 02:55 PM

QUOTE (DocHoliday @ Thursday, March 26th, 2009, 2:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What is the dilemma here?

You hit probably one of the best flops you could... Top two and there is flush draw on the board, so you can expect to get a lot of action at this limit. If they suckout on you, or you have run into the complete monster, so be it, it happens... But you can never fold here... I never could at least.



There is no dilemma here really. I am new to cash and was just wondering if there was any way that i misplayed this. Not complaining about the suck out or anything like that. Just looking for more points of view from more experienced cash game players.

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 04:11 PM

would you have posted this if you won the hand wink.gif

the time you laydown top 2 at this level in a spot like this should be the time you quit poker.

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Posted 27 March 2009 - 08:23 PM

The only hand you should be afraid of is 88 with only 1 combination of AA and KK and even then its a cooler.
I know its tempting to go for the check raise here but with two people to act and the fact that the A and K on the board is going to scare a lot of QQ/JJ hands from betting you are going to see this get checked to the turn so often. If they want to draw they will pay so don't give them the free card opportunity.
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