10's capped preflop.. played correctly?

[JaysonWeber 0]

PokerStars 1/2 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP3 with [Td], [Ts]. UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, Button calls, MP1 calls.StandardFlop: (18.50 SB) [8d], [Ad], [4c] (4 players)MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button folds.Implied odds, Ussually need 22-1 here to call, but it's close enough and the table's loose, Figuring im beat here though.Turn: (10.75 BB) [2c] (3 players)MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, MP1 calls, MP2 calls.Wierd... But I bet it for information and didn't face a re-raise.River: (13.75 BB) [Js] (3 players)MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks.Good Check Right?Final Pot: 13.75 BBI posted a hand yesterday, just trying to make sure what I think is "standard" really is, Lost my tail on the 1/2 PokerStars room the last 2 days after 2 good days, Making sure my play isn't slipping.

[cdddc75 0]

I'd bet the river to at least blow MP2's KK out of the hand.Not sure what the hell MP1 has.

[Vade 0]

I'd bet the river to at least blow MP2's KK out of the hand.Not sure what the hell MP1 has.

MP2 ain't foldin to one bet, I think the check is fine.

[cdddc75 0]

I'd bet the river to at least blow MP2's KK out of the hand.Not sure what the hell MP1 has.

MP2 ain't foldin to one bet, I think the check is fine.

MP2 shouldn't fold to one bet, but he already limped/capped then called the rest of the way down.Then again, I probably fold the flop since someone likely has an ace with a preflop cap.

[wrto4556 0]

nh

[wrto4556 0]

I'd bet the river to at least blow MP2's KK out of the hand.Not sure what the hell MP1 has.

MP2 ain't foldin to one bet, I think the check is fine.

MP2 shouldn't fold to one bet, but he already limped/capped then called the rest of the way down.Then again, I probably fold the flop since someone likely has an ace with a preflop cap.

But we have odds to draw to a 2 outter.

[Dirtydutch 9]

I liked the check aswell.

[cdddc75 0]

I'd bet the river to at least blow MP2's KK out of the hand.Not sure what the hell MP1 has.

MP2 ain't foldin to one bet, I think the check is fine.

MP2 shouldn't fold to one bet, but he already limped/capped then called the rest of the way down.Then again, I probably fold the flop since someone likely has an ace with a preflop cap.

But we have odds to draw to a 2 outter.

Only if no one has AA. Even then, we still might have to dodge a diamond.I'd rather raise that flop than call it. Raising the flop is better than betting the turn. If we bet the turn, why do we check the river? Just wondering...

[Vade 0]

If someone has AA on this hand, they need to be stopped by Paul Phillips for being a Poker Dickhead. Lol, can't worry about AA in every capped pot

[cdddc75 0]

I don't think anyone has AA, but I had a donk call three cold on the button with the bullets just last night.Just saying that the two outs might not be clean.Without that marginal call, our hero doesn't burn a big bet on the turn.

[KDawgCometh 2]

looks goot. you did everything right

[Whatever 1]

Flop: (18.50 SB) [8d], [Ad], [4c] (4 players) MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button folds.

Is raising here for information so bad?

[cdddc75 0]

Flop: (18.50 SB) [8d], [Ad], [4c] (4 players) MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button folds.

Is raising here for information so bad?

It's better than betting the turn for information. It's cheaper.

[JaysonWeber 0]

Allright, After these responses I think I played it fine.I am not going to raise the flop, At this point I figure one for an Ace, so I'm not going to raise when I'm 90% im behind. It was capped pre-flop and bet on flop, I figure an ace is out there. I call on the 2 outter because the pots big enough.I fold the turn unless it is checked to me, I prefer to keep them on the defense so I raise this, If I get re-raised I fold here, Raising the flop won't give me much information IMO because the pot that big, they're probobly going to call with a lot of hands. The raise on the turn, after I get 2 cold I figure I'm now ahead in the hand.Checking the river, I can't handle a re-raise and a J might call me here w/ the pot as large as it is, so I checked it.I ended up winning the pot against KQ and Q2... Was surprised to say the least about the Q2. Thanks guys.

[KDawgCometh 2]

Flop: (18.50 SB) [8d], [Ad], [4c] (4 players) MP1 bets, MP2 calls, Hero calls, Button folds.

Is raising here for information so bad?

It's better than betting the turn for information. It's cheaper.

bah, its just chip spewage.. Raising "for information" is one of the dumbest reasons to raise, and trust me when I say that as I can usually find a dumb reason to raise

[cdddc75 0]

I am not going to raise the flop, At this point I figure one for an Ace, so I'm not going to raise when I'm 90% im behind. It was capped pre-flop and bet on flop, I figure an ace is out there. I call on the 2 outter because the pots big enough.I fold the turn unless it is checked to me, I prefer to keep them on the defense so I raise this, If I get re-raised I fold here, Raising the flop won't give me much information IMO because the pot that big, they're probobly going to call with a lot of hands. The raise on the turn, after I get 2 cold I figure I'm now ahead in the hand.Checking the river, I can't handle a re-raise and a J might call me here w/ the pot as large as it is, so I checked it.I ended up winning the pot against KQ and Q2... Was surprised to say the least about the Q2. Thanks guys.

Thank goodness for UltraDonks.

[ClaytonN 0]

I would be tempted to raise the flop here just to gain information and represent a strong ace.It really seems like MP1 has KK or QQ and was making a continuation bet.Your turn bet doesn't accomplish much in the eyes of a thinking opponent due to your flop action.If your opponents are the type that will get into call-down mode, so be it. But I think a flop raise is in order here. You need to define the range of opponents hands, (possibly win the pot right there against weak-tighties with KK or QQ).The only thing I don't like is the turn bet. KK-JJ will not go away.River check seems fine.

[JaysonWeber 0]

Okay, so if I raise the flop and get re-raised what are my choices? the pot was barely good enough to call on the 2 outer, so when its re-raised what would I do?

[cdddc75 0]

Okay, so if I raise the flop and get re-raised what are my choices? the pot was barely good enough to call on the 2 outer, so when its re-raised what would I do?

Call and proceed (probably folding the turn).The turn bet was begging to be check/raised by anybody with an actual hand.

[ClaytonN 0]

Okay, so if I raise the flop and get re-raised what are my choices? the pot was barely good enough to call on the 2 outer, so when its re-raised what would I do?

Then you can fold. Calling the flop is only going to encourage a hand like KK or QQ to continue firing to your weak resistance on the turn and/or river, giving you improper odds to continue. But if you raise, KK or QQ will shut down, maybe even fold.Since PF was a cap, you get the benefit of greatly narrowing your hand reads of the opponents. Calling the 3-bet makes sense only if villain is a total maniac.

[ClaytonN 0]

I had a hand that was very similar to this earlier today.UTG had raised, he was overaggro but solid, I had AQo and 3-bet. He capped. I called.Flop came A24.There is no sense for me to get aggressive, because if he has KK or QQ he will shut down and if he has AK he will fire back at me.I check-called every street on a A2478 board. He had KK.

[JaysonWeber 0]

So you say raise the flop instead of guaranteeing that I see the turn? And by raising I run the risk of having to fold? I just don't see how that's correct.

[MrNiceGuy 0]

Are the players as bad as Stars as they are at Party? I moved from nickels and dimes up to 1/2 on prima, then I started an account on Party. I swear, the average 1/2 player on party is worse than the average 25/50c player on prima.

[ClaytonN 0]

So you say raise the flop instead of guaranteeing that I see the turn? And by raising I run the risk of having to fold? I just don't see how that's correct.

Different mentalities, I guess.I think there's a better than 1 in 20 chance that nobody has an ace. That should change your strategy.It's also a big pot. I want to win it, not hang on and hope for a miracle on fourth street.Furthermore, if I lose the hand, I gain advertising.

[Abbaddabba 0]

I think there's a better than 1 in 20 chance that nobody has an ace. That should change your strategy.

I dont think you could possibly justify that assumption.