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#1 ChungAces

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 06:52 AM

im in a nl cash game 2/4 dollar game. 6 handed game and im small blind. Only one person calls the blinds, so do i and the bb checks. the flop comes 6 7 9 rainbow. I have K9, so i bet 12 dollars, bb calls so do first to act after blinds. The turn brings another 9 giving me trips. I bet 40 dolars, bb goes all in for 22 dollars and the first to act after blinds goes all in for 220 dollars. I still have 74 dollars left. Would u have called?
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#2 ajs510

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 06:59 AM

Not that it's necessarily the right call, but there's no way I could get away from that hand. It's possible you ran into 8/10 or A/9 (or both) but it's also possible that they have pocket 7's, 6's, 6/7, or a big pocket pair. No way I could lay this down, which is probably why I lose a lot...

#3 Emptyeye

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 07:05 AM

ajs510 said:

Not that it's necessarily the right call, but there's no way I could get away from that hand. It's possible you ran into 8/10 or A/9 (or both) but it's also possible that they have pocket 7's, 6's, 6/7, or a big pocket pair.
Pocket 7s and 6s both have your K9 plastered to the wall with their made boats. This, incidentally, may be why you lose a lot. ;)To the OP: Well, between your hand and the board, there's 3 of the 4 nines, so obviously they can't BOTH have the case nine, yet both seem to really like that card. Hmm.Reads would be nice here. Are they the type to push with anything less than a monster hand? Also, did BB RAISE another 22 dollars? Or did he only have 22 dollars left after the flop and CALLED your bet?

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 07:07 AM

Fair point, I wasn't thinking (obviously)

#5 Bad_Beat_Butters

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 07:11 AM

Tough call! Its hard to say with out knowing the texture of the game in total. If the other players that were in the pot were three betting with big pairs all night and limping with suited connectors I would have been worried. The fact that other players limped in suggest to me that they were on drawing hands and a board like that says that someone might have hit it. In a cash game I would have layed down, but in a tourney I would have called.
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#6 ChungAces

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 08:16 AM

BB only had the 22 dollars left and these guys limp in with anything really. The guy who pushed me for an all in was a decent player. I though at first he had flopped a straight. If he had a 9 i think it was a wierd all in as i was betting or representing the nine.[/u]
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#7 fatmanonguitar

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 08:30 AM

But if you really ask yourself "do I think I have the best hand right now?" what is the answer?I think you're beat and your only out is a King.If it was heads up instead of 3-way, you could very easily have the best hand with someone overplaying their trip 9's with an inferior kicker +/- straight draw.

#8 Garn

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 08:37 AM

I make the call. 6 handed with no raise I am thinking that they have either TPTK or 2 pair. The only thing that I would be worried about is a hand like 9/6 or 9/7

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 08:43 AM

Problem with this hand is any number of things could be out there...especially 810s. You could also be up against 910s, 9Js, or any number of other things that you have beat. It's a really tough scenario. The way I see it, there's 48 in the pot, 40 from your bet, 22 from the caller, and 40+74 that you're playing for from the all in raiser. So, you're getting 224 for 74....3-1 odds on your call. Those are mighty attractive, but the problem is, I'd be hard pressed to put you on anything other than exactly what you have, at worst. Our raiser isn't really afraid of your trip 9's. You didn't raise pre-flop, so I couldn't put you on a continuation bet with high cards...you'd have raised those pre-flop. I couldn't put you on a high overpair either, same reason. I gotta figure you hit part of that flop, and therefore the turn had to help you. Either you hit a straight, or a nine most likely. He still moves in pretty damn quickly. He'd be limping a low pair here. That'd be bad news for you. He'd also have limped either of the two straights, though 5-8 is unlikely to be played. He's also have limped 97 or 96 suited in a shorthanded game possibly...depending on how opened up he is. The only thing you beat is a slowplayed/overplayed high pp, or a limped 89s, 910s, 9Js or the like. I'd say with the range of hands he moves in on you with, considering the preflop raise, you don't win this pot enough to merit the call. Especially when you consider he had to have check/raised you on the turn when the 9 hit, since he was first to act after the blinds. I don't mind your betting to the turn at all though, I think you played it well. Just lay it down here.

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 08:44 AM

end teh suspense

#11 ChungAces

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 09:21 AM

i folded the hand and he turned over a straight, 6 7 8 9 10
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