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#1 KDawgCometh

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Posted 17 May 2005 - 06:02 PM

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is SB with [4s], [4d]. UTG raises.Flop: (7 SB) [3c], [Th], [8c] (3 players)Hero checks, UTG bets, UTG calls, Button calls.Turn: (6.50 BB) [8h] (3 players)Hero bets, UTG calls, Button folds.River: (8.50 BB) [2c] (2 players)Hero bets, UTG calls.Final Pot: 10.50 BBaight, lets get some discussion here. The PFR had been aggressive, but not out of line. Button was a tard of tards, but he respected my play, so I kinda wanted himout of hte pot incase he was trying for some kind of draw.What do y'all tinkof dis hand here
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 06:05 PM

KDawgCometh said:

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (8 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is SB with [4s], [4d]. UTG raises.Flop: (7 SB) [3c], [Th], [8c] (3 players)Hero checks, UTG bets, UTG calls, Button calls.Turn: (6.50 BB) [8h] (3 players)Hero bets, UTG calls, Button folds.River: (8.50 BB) [2c] (2 players)Hero bets, UTG calls.Final Pot: 10.50 BBaight, lets get some discussion here. The PFR had been aggressive, but not out of line. Button was a tard of tards, but he respected my play, so I kinda wanted himout of hte pot incase he was trying for some kind of draw.What do y'all tinkof dis hand here
id play it the sameand it would look prettier.
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 06:06 PM

if you wanted button out you should have led the flop.
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 06:06 PM

Fillmaff comes to mind. He check-raised me on the flop with an underpair? An underpair?Lol. Can't wait to see what UTG had...AK? AQ? something like that. How did you put him on nothing exactly?NH
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 06:07 PM

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if you wanted button out you should have led the flop.
I'm not so sure PFR would've raised right there on the flop to try to push the button out
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 06:08 PM

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Fillmaff comes to mind. He check-raised me on the flop with an underpair? An underpair?Lol. Can't wait to see what UTG had...AK? AQ? something like that. How did you put him on nothing exactly?NH
magic. But Rocket says that I'm predictable so maybe my play wasn't all that good :wink:
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 06:09 PM

Vade said:

Fillmaff comes to mind. He check-raised me on the flop with an underpair? An underpair?Lol. Can't wait to see what UTG had...AK? AQ? something like that. How did you put him on nothing exactly?NH
its not really a read.it was a non scary flop and the bettor was the PFR.its a standard raise in a short handed pot.
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 06:12 PM

8 players is shorthanded now? :shock:
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 06:38 PM

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8 players is shorthanded now? :shock:
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Posted 17 May 2005 - 09:41 PM

I would fold this preflop here.Imho

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Posted 17 May 2005 - 09:49 PM

I like it. I especially like the value bet on the river. Ice

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 07:56 AM

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I would fold this preflop here.Imho
why would you fold it PF?
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 08:09 AM

i call this flop and lead the turn if its a non-club non face card.

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 10:18 AM

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avsfan said:

I would fold this preflop here.Imho
why would you fold it PF?
The PFR had been aggressive, "but not out of line".That and the amount of ppl. But it is primarily that utg raise that concerns me.I think it is a losing situation for the hand generally. Imho

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Posted 18 May 2005 - 10:22 AM

fold preflopPFR from UTG + only one caller = -EV
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 10:23 AM

avsfan said:

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avsfan said:

I would fold this preflop here.Imho
why would you fold it PF?
The PFR had been aggressive, "but not out of line".That and the amount of ppl. But it is primarily that utg raise that concerns me.I think it is a losing situation for the hand generally. Imho
cool, I just wanted to drag an explanation out of you :-)
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 10:27 AM

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fold preflopPFR from UTG + only one caller = -EV
Nah, I think you can call a single raise from the sb with any pair.
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 10:32 AM

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cdddc75 said:

fold preflopPFR from UTG + only one caller = -EV
Nah, I think you can call a single raise from the sb with any pair.
With button's call, it's pretty close. Considering UTG appears to be a solid player, it's a very marginal call from the SB. Of course, I'm trying to keep my VP$IP below 20%...so I'm a bit biased.
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Posted 18 May 2005 - 10:39 AM

At first I didn't like the preflop call from out of position, but actually I think it's ok.Getting almost 4-1 on the call (or more if the BB calls), and then you're 7-1 to hit the set, with decent implied odds if you do. Plus you might be able to get value on garbage flops (like the one here), if UTG doesn't have a big pair.
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