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[buffofspades]

Long time lurker here, and wanted to share my current experienceI've been trying to grind up a bankroll as well starting with a $25 deposit, I was able to grind up to in about a month and a half to $160 or so playing full ring $.02/$.05 NLHE -> Then I got bored, and I started plateau about two weeks ago. So, to take a break, I gave $.02/$.05 Pot-Limit Omaha 6-max a try. I think I hit a massive heater or something (Or micro PLO players really, really suck), because within a few days I zoomed past $200, decided to give $.15/$25 a shot and quickly I was pushing $300. I'm still playing $.15/$.25 6-max PLO and closing in on $400 fast. In other words, Is anyone else trying to grind a bankroll playing PLO?

[TheDonk1989]

UPDATE:I was running badly at cash games, I went down to .02/.05. I dipped down to about $170.Now I'm playing the big $2 and $1 tournaments. Most the time I make the money, and if I dont do thatI'll bust out right before the money. Very rarely do I finish early.My best place was 20th out of 2718.My best cash, which was yesterday, was $21.77 when I finished 75th of 6219.I've found that I can cash most the time in these tournaments and I can make deep runs.Eventually I will make a final table, and boost my bankroll.

[TheDonk1989]

UPDATE: UPDATE:I'll try to play a 2000+ tournament every day. If there is none I'll play some .02/.05 ring games.I'm currently 2 hours into a $2 tournament, under average. Ranked 436 of 599, It's gonna be a close one. Top 396 cash.Finished out of the money for that tournament. Raised preflop with AKs and flopped nut flush draw, hit my king on the turn, and pushed all in after someone bet.He turned up K6s for two pair. I missed the flush draw. Made a good run at it though.

[droberts]

The K6 was brutal vs. Ah Kh... i might have shoved flop with FD and 2 overs. A push there might have gotten him to lay down bottom pair also.

[TheDonk1989]

droberts, on Wednesday, March 18th, 2009, 9:47 PM, said:

The K6 was brutal vs. Ah Kh... i might have shoved flop with FD and 2 overs. A push there might have gotten him to lay down bottom pair also.

Yeah now that I see that he had K 6 I shouldve pushed on the flop. But I just wanted to draw and see if I couldnt hit my nut flush and double up, I was pushing after I hit my K for top pair.I'm gonna be in the 5K guarentee in about 10 minutes. Message me if your watching!

[lurbz]

Just achieved this goal last night, $27 to $1,000 in a month's time GL!

[TheDonk1989]

Great! Hopefully that can be me too.

[TheDonk1989]

I tried 2-7 NL single draw, I got 2nd... shouldve been 1st. It was one of the first times ive played that.I might throw that in there every now and then.Tonight im gonna be in the following tournaments:-2.20 buy in 2k guarentee-3.30 buy in 3k guarenteeif you watch me, give me a message.

[Dhall901]

Two words: Bankroll Management.Everything else is just background music.JMO

[TheDonk1989]

Dhall901, on Friday, March 20th, 2009, 10:15 PM, said:

Two words: Bankroll Management.Everything else is just background music.JMO

I'm following strict bankroll management.~Thanks for the reply

[jmbreslin]

buffofspades, on Wednesday, March 18th, 2009, 2:00 PM, said:

Long time lurker here, and wanted to share my current experienceI've been trying to grind up a bankroll as well starting with a $25 deposit, I was able to grind up to in about a month and a half to $160 or so playing full ring $.02/$.05 NLHE -> Then I got bored, and I started plateau about two weeks ago. So, to take a break, I gave $.02/$.05 Pot-Limit Omaha 6-max a try. I think I hit a massive heater or something (Or micro PLO players really, really suck), because within a few days I zoomed past $200, decided to give $.15/$25 a shot and quickly I was pushing $300. I'm still playing $.15/$.25 6-max PLO and closing in on $400 fast. In other words, Is anyone else trying to grind a bankroll playing PLO?

Watch out, PLO can erase everything you've gained quicker than you gained it. It's such a high variance game that nobody plays it as a roll builder.

[TheDonk1989]

I tried something new today and it worked. I played 9 tables of .02/.05 and won $5.71 after about 700 hands.I stopped the session to get something to eat and now I'm gonna wait for some micro guarentee's to join.It's about time I post a winning cash game session.

[TheDonk1989]

Played for about 20 min today and made almost $6.Playing 9 tables has been really good for me lately.

[TheDonk1989]

Played for another hour, about 700 hands. I almost made $11.I've been making the right plays and not getting into any marginal situations.

[lurbz]

TheDonk1989, on Monday, March 23rd, 2009, 5:14 PM, said:

Played for another hour, about 700 hands. I almost made $11.I've been making the right plays and not getting into any marginal situations.

FWIW the way I did it was 4-tabling 45 man SNGs. I started around $20 and took my shot like I usually do with two 6.50s. Won 1 5th in another to be over $100 there, continued grinding the 6.50 45 mans till I had 50 buyins for the $12 level. Now currently 4 tabling regularly, each set is 3 45 man SNGs (all turbos if that isn't apparent) and 1 $12 180 turbo for each set. It works well, and one cooler doesn't do huge damage like the cash games do. Just sharing a success story that is possible could work out well for someone else as well.

[TheDonk1989]

Played for about an hour. I'm taking a break. Playing 9 tables constantly for an hour kinda wears me out.Made about $5, I havent had a losing session since switching to 9 tables. I'm going to lay off the big tournaments and go right back to cash games.I'm feeling good and making the right plays, I'm "in the zone."

[TheDonk1989]

lurbz, on Tuesday, March 24th, 2009, 4:51 PM, said:

FWIW the way I did it was 4-tabling 45 man SNGs. I started around $20 and took my shot like I usually do with two 6.50s. Won 1 5th in another to be over $100 there, continued grinding the 6.50 45 mans till I had 50 buyins for the $12 level. Now currently 4 tabling regularly, each set is 3 45 man SNGs (all turbos if that isn't apparent) and 1 $12 180 turbo for each set. It works well, and one cooler doesn't do huge damage like the cash games do. Just sharing a success story that is possible could work out well for someone else as well.

You started with $20 and entered two 45 man sngs that were $6.50? So you put more than half of your bankroll on the line.Not exactly good bankroll management. When you were at $100 and entered a $6.50 45 player that wouldnt be good bankroll management either.Puting 6.5% of your bankroll into a MTT isn't good. You should do 2% of your bankroll for MTT's and 5% for single table SNGs.But it's an amazing feat what you did. $20 to $1,000.

[lurbz]

TheDonk1989, on Tuesday, March 24th, 2009, 3:08 PM, said:

You started with $20 and entered two 45 man sngs that were $6.50? So you put more than half of your bankroll on the line.Not exactly good bankroll management. When you were at $100 and entered a $6.50 45 player that wouldnt be good bankroll management either.Puting 6.5% of your bankroll into a MTT isn't good. You should do 2% of your bankroll for MTT's and 5% for single table SNGs.But it's an amazing feat what you did. $20 to $1,000.

To be quite honest here, the play at any level below 6.50 was so ridiculously bad in my eyes that I couldn't/refused to dumb my own game down enough to play them. Also, like I said in the post, taking $20 and taking a shot is what I was doing, not grinding it up using BR management techniques on $20. I did not even have enough to buy into the lowest level SNG using the BR management technique you described.Once the roll was stable, I utilized BR management techniques quite well. I've been able to survive 30 buyin downswings and come storming back from them. I'm nearing enough to move up to the next level ($27 turbo 45s and $36 turbo 180s) using correct BR management, I just keep setting myself back a little by cashing out from time to time - which actually gives me more time to improve my game and analyze more before moving up.Just my opinion that a roll needs to be healthy in order for BR management to be realistic, just because of the typical skill level of the super-microlimit players.

[rcooj_7]

Just read through it all right now OP, great read, glad to see you doing well, AND it is great to see you sticking to GREAT br manangment all the way from Februaury to now. Ive got 2 questions what is your screenname on stars so i can rail when playing, and what is your br at now?

[TheDonk1989]

rcooj_7, on Tuesday, March 24th, 2009, 5:59 PM, said:

Just read through it all right now OP, great read, glad to see you doing well, AND it is great to see you sticking to GREAT br manangment all the way from Februaury to now. Ive got 2 questions what is your screenname on stars so i can rail when playing, and what is your br at now?

My screenname is TheDonk1989 and my bankroll is at $224.52.Watch one of my tables and message me, hopefully I'll see your text.Just keep trying if i dont respond