Sal Paradise, on Friday, February 6th, 2009, 9:02 AM, said:
well by "don't sweat it" I assumed you meant that it wasn't a big deal to you, forgive me for my misunderstanding. but the article does have quite a bit to do with abortion procedures. it seems that the abortion was perfectly legal and acceptable as long as the baby was still inside the mother, but when it came out it was some horrible mistake to kill it. what changed in those couple minutes? that's the main point. is a baby not human until it actually leaves the mother's body?also, ignoring the facts presented in the article with the guise of it being poorly written seems a bit silly to me.
no worries re: misunderstanding. i actually care about shit a lot less than i seem to most often. as to the specifics of abortion, it all comes back to that arrogance thing i mentioned before, imo. i simply don't know enough about biology, sustainability of various stages of fetal development, medical procedures, or anything like that to assume that i could really offer anything that ought to materialize in public policy. personally, as i said, i would never advise anyone to get an abortion and would probably even offer to adopt the kid of someone close to me before advising her to have an abortion, but that doesn't change the fact that i don't think myself knowledgeable enough about everything involved to be able to EVER feel like i could make that final decision for someone else, or even to offer my opinion on the matter when it's not asked of me. all that i really know about abortion is that it's an unfathomably difficult decision, and i'd probably deserve to burn in some sort of hell if i ever tried to make that decision more difficult or more stressful for someone else. it strikes me far too often that the people who tend to be the most vehement in their stance with regard to abortion (that is, on either side) generally know nearly nothing about how various medical abortion procedures are undertaken, what sorts of medical aids are necessary for fetuses in various stages of development in order for them to "survive," etc.in general, i don't think that the public is well-served by people who don't know shit about something taking strong stances with regard to issues surrounding that something. whether it's ted stevens talking about the internet as a series of tubes, a fundamentalist zealot carrying a sign with a picture of a fetus on it, or a chick in dreads with a joint hanging out of her mouth yelling "keep your laws off my body!" without really understanding why she's saying it, it speaks to an anti-intellectual current that runs ugly and deep throughout america today, which is really the only thing i tend to care about in any sort of profound way these days. bad journalists, simplistic thinkers, political pundits, etc.--these are really the only things that piss me off anymore, beyond gutterballs spiking the river for 20BB pots. :)and donkslayer--that's all well and good, but unless you're willing to offer up a definition of life that we can all agree upon, #3 as you've formulated it doesn't really amount to anything.