i was just wondering if there is still animosity between daniel and annie duke and howard lederer. i read "Aces and Kings" last night and it mentioned when Daniel was younger he said some things about annie that wasnt taken lightly. it also goes on to say that daniel matured and what not, but i was just wondering if any of them get along. here is the excerpt:"In the tight-lipped world of high-stakes poker, he developed a reputation as a bigmouth, writing a candid monthly column in Card Player magazine and posting frequently to the popular online bulletin board rec.gambling.poker. To the public, he was an approachable everyman, writing openly about "party day" and his troubles with alcohol, but he occasionally stepped on toes when he voiced strong opinions about other pros.In one notorious example, Negreanu posted a blistering takedown of Annie Duke, commenting on everything from her table behavior to her personal hygiene. The diatribe stemmed from Negreanu's close friendship with Jennifer Harman, who he believed was the best female player in the world, despite persistent media reports awarding that title to Duke. In his post, Negreanu didn't name Duke, but the target was clear to everyone in the poker community. Howard Lederer, Duke's older brother, posted a lengthy response defending his sister. He closed by writing: "I will, from now on, ignore your entire existence, unless, of course, I am trying to bust you at the poker table. You have crossed the line, and I don't really care if you ever come back."The exchange was a rare public rift between top players. Worse, at least for Negreanu, was that Lederer staked out the high ground (for the most part, anyway; he did accuse Negreanu of getting drunk and snatching the toupee off a player's head)."The book also goes on to say that Men the Master is nothing short of a cheat. Pretty brutal in my opinion.
negreanu vs. lederer/duke
Started by memphis-sc, May 17 2005 09:54 AM
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#1
Posted 17 May 2005 - 09:54 AM
#2
Posted 17 May 2005 - 09:56 AM
yawn......old news....
Good times for a change
See, the luck I've had
Can make a good man
Turn bad
So please please please
Let me, let me, let me
Let me get what I want
This time
Haven't had a dream in a long time
See, the life I've had
Can make a good man bad
So for once in my life
Let me get what I want
Lord knows, it would be the first time
Lord knows, it would be the first time
See, the luck I've had
Can make a good man
Turn bad
So please please please
Let me, let me, let me
Let me get what I want
This time
Haven't had a dream in a long time
See, the life I've had
Can make a good man bad
So for once in my life
Let me get what I want
Lord knows, it would be the first time
Lord knows, it would be the first time
#3
Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:27 AM
Why is men the master a cheat?
CD: Is there a limit that makes you play differently?
Phil Ivey: I haven’t seen one yet. I always want to play as high as I possibly can. I’d like to play $8,000-$16,000 . You can’t be afraid to lose. There may be some players who have the ability to play higher and could play and compete in our games, but they are afraid of losing money. They feel that they don’t need it. I say, “Well, what’s the point of living?” If you can do it, and you believe that you can do it, I say go for it.
Phil Ivey: I haven’t seen one yet. I always want to play as high as I possibly can. I’d like to play $8,000-$16,000 . You can’t be afraid to lose. There may be some players who have the ability to play higher and could play and compete in our games, but they are afraid of losing money. They feel that they don’t need it. I say, “Well, what’s the point of living?” If you can do it, and you believe that you can do it, I say go for it.
#4
Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:29 AM
I have to mention...I would not hit Annie Duke, not with a 10' pole, not even if it was yours.That is all.
#5
Posted 17 May 2005 - 10:30 AM
iveyfan30 said:
yawn......old news....
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