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[JaysonWeber]

Allright, I haven't been online the past few days for a few reasons so I guess I'll get that out of the way...I got done w/ classes for the semester and moved to green bay for the summer. My computer didn't work when we moved it (about 4 of our computers quit working after moving them out of the dorms wtf?!) and third is the reason I post this. I announced that I would play any poker game whenever people wanted, and host at my house. Well that was a mistake, It has literally been a nonstop game for 12-18 hours a day the last 3 days.I had a lot of key hands but I want your opinion on this one.7 Handed - .5/1 NLHEJayson - UTG+1 Q Q :club:Bet out too 5, table is EXTREMELY loose right now. There are 2 players raising and calling to see flops.I get 2 callers and the action goes to the Button where a good friend of mine Re-Raises it $10 More.His Style - I would say he's a relatively tight player, once he's in a hand he'll bet the whole way with Ace high, he wants to win it. He is also horrible when it comes to chasing flushes, he thinks its profitable so he likes his suited cards.Now, the blinds Fold and the action comes back to me, I glance at the players who have already called, one is a Weak-Passive who should not have been playing at the table, the other was one of the Wild Loose guys who had managed to loose about $140 in the last Hour, he was mildly tilting, and gunning for me after I called a 30 re-raise setting me All-in with AQ to his AJ semi-bluff pre-flop.I see the weak-passive is going to fold, and the Maniac is counting the rest of his chips w/ his eyes, having set the $10 to call on the side. He only has $20-$25 left.So looking at two black ladies, With about $110 infront of me I decided to re-raise 2/3 of the Buttons Stack, Pushing it another $40.Now, I know the maniac is calling and I don't think the Button player has AA or KK, I actually figure him for a weaker hand like KQ or Mid-Pair. Is this raise of another $40 good? Should I push him all-in? Should I smooth-call? Or even Fold, as that Crossed my mind. It's been a while since I evaluated my NL Game, As It's been about 3 months since I played in anything worth thinking about in terms of NL.EDIT: I should re-phrase about my thoughts on the Buttons hands here. I have him on AK, KQ (He DOES Re-Raise w/ this hand), Or a Mid-Pair, I am almost certain he does not have AA or KK. Incase he reads this I do not want to mention why, lets just say... I was rather certain.

[Vade]

A weak player and a maniac? I'm all in preflop here.Save a lot of later hassle

[JaysonWeber]

Vade said:

A weak player and a maniac? I'm all in preflop here.Save a lot of later hassle

No Vade, The Weak Player looked like he was going to fold so He's out.Maniac only has $25 left, After calling the original $5 and $10 (that he's set aside slightly) and the player I'm most worried about is on the Button. He is a TA for the most part, with quite a few gaps in his play but all and all a rather solid player, if for nothing else he has balls to push.

[gobears]

I think that if it was only the maniac, I like your raise.It's the button that concerns me especially since you said that he's a relatively tight player. You raised 5xBB; would he reraise with KQ or mid pair if he's tight? I think that a tight player calls at best with KQ or mid pair especially with three more to act. He could have closed the action but he didn't.With the maniac and the button to deal with, I would call the flop and hope that an A or K doesn't fall.

[Vade]

Ah...see this is what happens when I read strategy too late at night :PThen that might be too big of a bet

[BigDMcGee]

Are you raising with lots of hands? because, if you are, and you don't think that he has AA or KK, AK is the absolute worst hand you have to worry about... anything else your a favorite over.. the LAG player you know has a worse hand is calling your raise anyway, so you should push all in.. you'll get the pot heads up with the LAG and push out the other hand, and if he wants to play, so be it... if he has AK, so beit... It's very likely one of his aces or kings are dead, do to the LAG player's call.. basically, you're playing for the LAG player's money, and what youre tight friend whom you don't have on AA or KK. Maybe All in is a large overbet here, but I like getting it heads up when I have a hand like JJ QQ when some small stack is squirting off their chips... if it was heads up with you and the tight player, then I would just call, and let him have the lead the whole hand, letting him bluff off his chips with ace high, since you said he does this. But with the LAG factor, I think you wanna gobble up the little stack with what is proably a much better hand, perhaps an over pair to undercards, or an underpair. Worse case is an over card under card.

[Pokerdad2222]

I think it depends on what you are trying to accomplish here. Do you want the tight player to call you??I think the bet was a good size bet if you think you have him beat right now. It sounds like you have a pretty good read on him. Another option might have been to call and see a flop and outplay him after that since you seem to have him read because you might be putting your hand up against AK in a coin toss situation with all of the chips already in the pot. The only problem with a flat call is that you may not be able to tell exactly how strong his hand is without him reacting to a reraise

[dms26]

If you're willing to put in all your chips preflop why not just smooth call. If the flop is low, you are first to act and you can push and leave them with a decision with only 2 cards to come. If an ace or king flops you probably just saved yourself alot of money, if the flop looks safe you still win a nice pot if they fold.I really don't like going all in in a cash game preflop without AA.