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[MrNiceGuy]

Prima poker, $1/$2 (9-handed)The table overall was pretty tight. I hadn't been playing long, but I had caught a couple hands and won showdowns with them, so my raises were getting some respect. I didn't have any reads on specific players, other than that nobody struck me as especially loose.Hero is MP1 with J:diamond: T:diamond:2 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.Since the table was tight and respecting raises, I raised in fairly early position/Flop: 2:diamond: 5:diamond: A:spade:BB bets, Hero raises, Button folds, BB callsI raised to represent an A.Turn: 5:club:BB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero callsI briefly considered taking the free card, but I decided to semibluff and continue to represent the ace, thinking maybe BB had a pair or a weak A that I could fold. So then of course I got raised.River: 4:diamond:BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.Hey, I'll take it. I opted to just call the 3-bet, figuring that was a scary board for him to 3-bet at if he just had trips or two pair.Any thoughts on the preflop raise or the turn bet? Anybody cap the river?Thanks,-Bill

[Vade]

I'm fine with this based on your reads/table image.Ordinarily I wouldn't want to be raising J10 suited this early, but nh

[wrto4556]

The flop raise is marginal but only if YOU TAKE THE FREE CARD ON THE TURN!Im actually undecided about the preflop play, though.

[econ_tim]

Since the table is tight, I guess the PFR is OK.I would call the flop. Might as well let the Button stick around.Check the Turn.The river raise depends on how you read the player. He is betting into three to a flush. Would he do this without a good flush or better?

[wrto4556]

I lead that river with an ace all day.

[MrNiceGuy]

wrto4556 said:

The flop raise is marginal but only if YOU TAKE THE FREE CARD ON THE TURN!Im actually undecided about the preflop play, though.

Now that I think about it, you're absolutely right - almost no way he leads into me on that flop without at least an A in his hand. I definitely should have taken the free card.I don't know about the preflop raise either ........ I often fold QJs when I'm in relatively early position. The game was tight, so I took a shot with it, but I'm not sure it was a wise move.

[MrNiceGuy]

econ_tim said:

Since the table is tight, I guess the PFR is OK.I would call the flop.  Might as well let the Button stick around.Check the Turn.The river raise depends on how you read the player.  He is betting into three to a flush.  Would he do this without a good flush or better?

I think the river raise is automatic - I didn't have a read on the guy, but even if he thinks I might have the flush, he can't be real afraid of it, unless he thinks I have exactly A x (since what kind of idiot bets that turn with nothing but a diamond draw! :oops: )His three-bet into a paired board with a possible flush got me nervous though.

[MrNiceGuy]

Anyway, turns out BB had A3 offsuit (no diamonds). That river card was the worst card in the deck for him.

[econ_tim]

MrNiceGuy said:

econ_tim said:

Since the table is tight, I guess the PFR is OK.I would call the flop.  Might as well let the Button stick around.Check the Turn.The river raise depends on how you read the player.  He is betting into three to a flush.  Would he do this without a good flush or better?

I think the river raise is automatic - I didn't have a read on the guy, but even if he thinks I might have the flush, he can't be real afraid of it, unless he thinks I have exactly A x (since what kind of idiot bets that turn with nothing but a diamond draw! :oops: )His three-bet into a paired board with a possible flush got me nervous though.

Yeah, a river raise is right most of the time. I just wasn't sure how tight you meant the table was. Against a rock, for instance, I would just call.

[Absolute]

im not crazy about that pre-flop raise.

[avsfan]

Prima poker, $1/$2 (9-handed)The table overall was pretty tight. I hadn't been playing long, but I had caught a couple hands and won showdowns with them, so my raises were getting some respect. I didn't have any reads on specific players, other than that nobody struck me as especially loose.Hero is MP1 with J:diamond: T:diamond:2 folds, Hero raises, 3 folds, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls.Since the table was tight and respecting raises, I raised in fairly early positionOk, all depends. I like it. ImhoFlop: 2:diamond: 5:diamond: A:spade:BB bets, Hero raises, Button folds, BB callsI raised to represent an A.Vn. ImhoTurn: 5:clubBB checks, Hero bets, BB raises, Hero callsI briefly considered taking the free card, but I decided to semibluff and continue to represent the ace, thinking maybe BB had a pair or a weak A that I could fold. So then of course I got raised.Vn. Imho.River: 4:diamond:BB bets, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.Hey, I'll take it. I opted to just call the 3-bet, figuring that was a scary board for him to 3-bet at if he just had trips or two pair.Vn. ImhoImho

[Vade]

Avs, that is some serious chipspewing

[avsfan]

Vade said:

Avs, that is some serious chipspewing

you mean the turn.

[Vade]

Ya. Heck, capping the river might be spewing too...

[avsfan]

was lookin at it there is only one caller on th turn..uh ohI don't think the river is.ok I changed it.

[Absolute]

how about the pre-flop raisewhat are we accomplishing here getting heads up or short handed with better hands (pretty much only better hands calling two cold here)why put J10s in that situation

[avsfan]

Absolute said:

how about the pre-flop raisewhat are we accomplishing here getting heads up or short handed with better hands (pretty much only better hands calling two cold here)why put J10s in that situation

Two reasons the players are weak or you are getting great value with 4 plus callers.

[wrto4556]

the table is tight, we arent getting 4 callers.and the turn bet is horrible, just so you know.

[Absolute]

wrto4556 said:

the table is tight, we arent getting 4 callers.and the turn bet is horrible, just so you know.

more reason not to open raise J10s in EP

[avsfan]

Absolute said:

wrto4556 said:

the table is tight, we arent getting 4 callers.and the turn bet is horrible, just so you know.

more reason not to open raise J10s in EP

Yes it is a disaster the way it turned out preflop.