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Lowest Set On Monoboard Nl 100


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#1 kikijiki

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 06:06 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

MP ($104.65)
CO ($113.90)
Button ($71)
SB ($141.80)
Hero (BB) ($113.55)
UTG ($85.45)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 5
UTG calls $1, 3 folds, SB raises to $4, Hero calls $3, UTG calls $3

Flop: ($12) A, Q, 5 (3 players)
SB bets $7, Hero raises to $21, 1 fold, SB raises to $101, Hero ???

SB is 22/17/5 in 70 hands. I know it's not mutch but looks like solid TAG, so I think I can narrow down his holding of cards to AQ/A5 with aggressive defece of flopped 2 pairs, AK/AJ with spade or overset. I think it isn't "I have a flush, pls call, pls call" situation. Push it or fold it?

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 06:56 AM

If he is anything of a competent player he won't show up with a low flopped flush here, simply because he wouldn't have raised PF OOP with something like 56ss. Also if he does have the overset with AA,QQ i guess he would have raised bigger preflop especially with QQ being OOP with a limper already in, and IF he hit the set on the flop he probably would have bet bigger than $7 into a 12$ pot protecting his hand from the flush draw. So my guess is you are up against AQ, or AK/AJ/KK with the K or J of spades, in which case you are a decent favorite.

And hell if he flopped the donkflush suck out on him by pairing the board.
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 07:38 AM

QUOTE (Lucoo_ @ Tuesday, January 13th, 2009, 3:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If he is anything of a competent player he won't show up with a low flopped flush here, simply because he wouldn't have raised PF OOP with something like 56ss. Also if he does have the overset with AA,QQ i guess he would have raised bigger preflop especially with QQ being OOP with a limper already in, and IF he hit the set on the flop he probably would have bet bigger than $7 into a 12$ pot protecting his hand from the flush draw. So my guess is you are up against AQ, or AK/AJ/KK with the K or J of spades, in which case you are a decent favorite.

And hell if he flopped the donkflush suck out on him by pairing the board.


spot on

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 08:35 AM

This isn't really foldable, IMHO. I think I'm getting it in for most of the reasons others have mentioned. The only hands we're dead to are oversets, and if so, then so be it, I guess. This is hands like AxKs a lot.
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 10:03 AM

So basicly my line of thinking was correct. Thank you Lucoo_ for pointing out that AA/QQ is less likely, I didn't consider it. The villan probably had the best thing for me in this spot A5 of clubs (of course I was scared when another spade landed on the river), no ace for villan and I won it.

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 12:26 PM

QUOTE (Snake Plissken @ Tuesday, January 13th, 2009, 8:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
spot on


I should move up to NL100 icon_frown.gif
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Posted 13 January 2009 - 05:17 PM

QUOTE (kikijiki @ Tuesday, January 13th, 2009, 7:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So basicly my line of thinking was correct. Thank you Lucoo_ for pointing out that AA/QQ is less likely, I didn't consider it. The villan probably had the best thing for me in this spot A5 of clubs (of course I was scared when another spade landed on the river), no ace for villan and I won it.


Just out of curiosity, do you have stats/reads on UTG? That can help give an idea of how wide we think the SB was raising.

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 07:28 PM

Never ever ever ever fold.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 06:51 AM

QUOTE (AimHigher @ Wednesday, January 14th, 2009, 2:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just out of curiosity, do you have stats/reads on UTG? That can help give an idea of how wide we think the SB was raising.

UTG was 20,5 / 6 / 2.3.

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Posted 14 January 2009 - 08:32 AM

Nh OP. I want to disagree that this less likely AA or QQ from villain than any other reasonable hand..4x bb is the standard punch-it raise in 100NL, and if the villain is competent he's not going to be varying his betsize on the strength of his hand.
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Posted 14 January 2009 - 04:37 PM

You got to go with this hand as hard and fast as you can. And if you had managed to get beat - that's what we have setometer for - to remind us we just hit a bit of bad luck is all...


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Posted 15 January 2009 - 11:26 AM

QUOTE (DonkSlayer @ Wednesday, January 14th, 2009, 8:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Nh OP. I want to disagree that this less likely AA or QQ from villain than any other reasonable hand..4x bb is the standard punch-it raise in 100NL, and if the villain is competent he's not going to be varying his betsize on the strength of his hand.

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