kikijiki 0 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flopMP ($104.65)CO ($113.90)Button ($71)SB ($141.80)Hero (BB) ($113.55)UTG ($85.45)Preflop: Hero is BB with 5, 5UTG calls $1, 3 folds, SB raises to $4, Hero calls $3, UTG calls $3Flop: ($12) A, Q, 5(3 players)SB bets $7, Hero raises to $21, 1 fold, SB raises to $101, Hero ???SB is 22/17/5 in 70 hands. I know it's not mutch but looks like solid TAG, so I think I can narrow down his holding of cards to AQ/A5 with aggressive defece of flopped 2 pairs, AK/AJ with spade or overset. I think it isn't "I have a flush, pls call, pls call" situation. Push it or fold it? Link to post Share on other sites
Lucoo_ 0 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 If he is anything of a competent player he won't show up with a low flopped flush here, simply because he wouldn't have raised PF OOP with something like 56ss. Also if he does have the overset with AA,QQ i guess he would have raised bigger preflop especially with QQ being OOP with a limper already in, and IF he hit the set on the flop he probably would have bet bigger than $7 into a 12$ pot protecting his hand from the flush draw. So my guess is you are up against AQ, or AK/AJ/KK with the K or J of spades, in which case you are a decent favorite. And hell if he flopped the donkflush suck out on him by pairing the board. Link to post Share on other sites
Snake Plissken 0 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 If he is anything of a competent player he won't show up with a low flopped flush here, simply because he wouldn't have raised PF OOP with something like 56ss. Also if he does have the overset with AA,QQ i guess he would have raised bigger preflop especially with QQ being OOP with a limper already in, and IF he hit the set on the flop he probably would have bet bigger than $7 into a 12$ pot protecting his hand from the flush draw. So my guess is you are up against AQ, or AK/AJ/KK with the K or J of spades, in which case you are a decent favorite. And hell if he flopped the donkflush suck out on him by pairing the board.spot on Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 This isn't really foldable, IMHO. I think I'm getting it in for most of the reasons others have mentioned. The only hands we're dead to are oversets, and if so, then so be it, I guess. This is hands like AxKs a lot. Link to post Share on other sites
kikijiki 0 Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 So basicly my line of thinking was correct. Thank you Lucoo_ for pointing out that AA/QQ is less likely, I didn't consider it. The villan probably had the best thing for me in this spot A5 of clubs (of course I was scared when another spade landed on the river), no ace for villan and I won it. Link to post Share on other sites
Lucoo_ 0 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 spot onI should move up to NL100 Link to post Share on other sites
AimHigher 0 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 So basicly my line of thinking was correct. Thank you Lucoo_ for pointing out that AA/QQ is less likely, I didn't consider it. The villan probably had the best thing for me in this spot A5 of clubs (of course I was scared when another spade landed on the river), no ace for villan and I won it.Just out of curiosity, do you have stats/reads on UTG? That can help give an idea of how wide we think the SB was raising. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Never ever ever ever fold. Link to post Share on other sites
kikijiki 0 Posted January 14, 2009 Author Share Posted January 14, 2009 Just out of curiosity, do you have stats/reads on UTG? That can help give an idea of how wide we think the SB was raising.UTG was 20,5 / 6 / 2.3. Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted January 14, 2009 Share Posted January 14, 2009 Nh OP. I want to disagree that this less likely AA or QQ from villain than any other reasonable hand..4x bb is the standard punch-it raise in 100NL, and if the villain is competent he's not going to be varying his betsize on the strength of his hand. Link to post Share on other sites
Sens-Eh 0 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 You got to go with this hand as hard and fast as you can. And if you had managed to get beat - that's what we have setometer for - to remind us we just hit a bit of bad luck is all... Link to post Share on other sites
sactownjoey 0 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Nh OP. I want to disagree that this less likely AA or QQ from villain than any other reasonable hand..4x bb is the standard punch-it raise in 100NL, and if the villain is competent he's not going to be varying his betsize on the strength of his hand.+1 Link to post Share on other sites
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