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interesting nl hand (krablar included)


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#1 Wily

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 05:59 PM

Chief, Aseem and I were playing together yesterday when this beauty of a hand came up between Chief and me. Just wondering what you guys think of how both of us played it, and if it was just guaranteed that all the chips would end up in the middle at the end.It was a single blind (.25) deep stack NL game. Chief was dealer with about $60, I was the blind with about $100. Aseem folds, Chief raises to $1 (his standard) with a softshell Krablar K :club: 3 :D .I look down at A :club: J :) , and call.Flop is: J :club: 7 :club: 3 :club: .I check, Chief bets out $1, I raise to $3, he reraises me to $8. I decide to call and see a turn. Turn is: J :D 7 :) 3 :club: . A :D I check (I think this was a bad move), and Chief bets $10 straight at me. I'm about 50/50 between whether he has a weak flush, or an lonely A :club: that just paired at this point. I decide to call with top two pair.River is: J :club: 7 :D 3 :) . A :) A :D The best (and worst) card for both of us. I check to him knowing he's hit his flush OR full house now, and he immediately pushes all in for his remaining $30. I, of course, call with the nuts. So I guess this hand was basically an overplayed flush draw vs an overplayed TPTK/top two. Were both of us silly for taking this hand so far, or did we play it correctly?

#2 Makata

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 07:08 PM

He (3K) played it pretty much perfectly.IMO you made 2 errors. The first is raising only a slim amount on such a dangerous board. TPTK is great but there's 3 clubs out (you have none), and 2 straight oppurtunities. With the pot at $3 before your call, you were giving him 3 to 1 on the call which is more than enough odds for any 2p or flush draw. A raise to $5, perhaps $6 would have been better.Second, I think the call of the reraise was fairly weak. Although the amount he raised you by was not considerable, almost 3 to 1 on your call, you called on a very marginal hand. The only turn cards which allow you to continue playing if he were to fire the turn are the 2 non club aces, and the 2 remaining jacks. IMO you paid $5 on 4 outs, and even if you hit one, you could still be drawing to 4 to 10 river outs if he had a made flush.Had the hand played out something like ..You: CheckHim: Bet $1You: Raise to $5Him: Reraise to $15.. then I think you'd have to fold, or possibly shove if you had enough of a read that he could have nothing but a draw.Also river check IMO is fairly mediocre. Any boat will call your shove, Kc will, and Qc probably will. No other hand besides a poorly played Ax will bet behind you, so why not make sure the chips get in just in case he'd call with rags that he would have checked with (as for all other hands it doesn't matter)?




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