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[repoman042]

trust me vista is GARBAGE! I was a mac hater for years until i was forced to get one in college, now i have a laptop and desktop and will never go back. Give it a couple weeks and you'll agree Daniel. that is.. of course.. if youre not as spiteful as i was.
PS i joined 3 years ago and this is my first post.. dirty

[outsider13]

brb, going to buy one. TY!!!

[repoman042]

haha DO IT! never have to worry about it freezing, slowing down, losing disk space. i havent even turned mine off in 7 months and ive never had to restart. And two grand on a laptop that doesnt even have ethernet? dont let those sales people sell you such crap

[LongLiveYorke]

Here's the secret to Mac vs PC:

They're both pretty decent. It all depends on what you want to use it for. The term PC is really meaningless since it encompasses many different companies and even the lack of companies. If you're into video editing, some music stuff, or using a really fancy Unix box, then Macs are great. If you're into gaming or office related programs, the PCs are great. If you want to get the best bang for your buck, built your own PC out of components and run Linux of some sort. In terms of costs if you're going to buy a pre-built model, then both Macs and PC's are about the same.

I prefer certain aspects of how the GUI on Windows works over that of Mac OS, but that's only because I was raised on Windows. I don't think that either is generically better than the other. Macs probably fail as often if not more often than PC's now (if you count both OS crashes and hardware malfunctions), and macs generally have a shorter life

[repoman042]

hmm.. im not exactly sure where your getting the bulk of your information. Also, your opinion is generally an outdated stereotype about apple computers. They absolutely do not crash/freeze as much as Windows because of the OS. With less background clutter programs run much easier and with lesser power so not to max out your RAM. Moreover, theyve greatly reduced the number of parts physically inside the computers which by default would mean, less hardware, less chance for hardware malfunction. Furthermore, Apple only sells a small number of models because all are ready equipped with close to, if not, top of the line hardware, look no further than the new macbook or macbook pro.

Oh and for the record, you can now run Windows on any Apple Computer if you so desire.

[outsider13]

fwiw, I don't have any problems with my PCs, however, I am fairly computer savy. I actually bought a computer off a friend who was tired of PC, so they bought a MAC. I still run this PC and this friend is now having issues with their mac. If mac's use less hardware (so to speak as you say), why the hell do they charge so much more for them?

As LLY said, I think mac definitely has a niche market, but for the casual thrifty computer user, I don' think they'll ever compete with PC.

[Sal Paradise]

only hippies, queers, and communists use macs.

I AGREE.

[Mercury69]

I'd buy a Mac only to get closer to that cute guy who is on the commercials...rawr!

j/k, but I've had a PC for a zillion years (since 286/386 days), so I (used to) know how they tick. I think the worst thing that ever happened to PC's was Windows. It made people stop learning the nuts and bolts of how computers run. As soon as I got an OS on my PC, I stopped learning how to manipulate DOS and now I am a slave to what the OS tells me.

I'd rather have a Mac these days, though, but there are still a lot of companies that don't put out Mac platform games and stuff. Or am i wrong?

[repoman042]

haha.. well everyone commenting here only has one side of the opinion. I for one used a PC daily for about 7 years, and have been using a Mac on a daily basis for about the last 4 so i know both sides of the equation. To answer some of these questions

1) They charge so much more for them because they are all premium models, meaning the hardware and software is above average and they have no lower end models because they are one company with very few partners. Ex. Toshiba puts there name on a laptop but it only has 1 or 2 Toshiba parts. Apple makes everything, and at a high end therefore charges more.

2) I'm not saying all PC's are doomed for failure, but I am saying that I know a lot of people on both sides of the coin and generally PC's breakdown a lot sooner/easier than apple. Theyre not more complicated. In fact, if you were to use a mac for 2 weeks i guarantee you would find it simpler than a PC. Want to delete a program, you drag two files into the trash instead of having to go through Add/Remove Programs, which a lot of people arent even aware of.

3) Companies not making mac-compatible software/games is virtually a thing of the past. Any commercially popular program or game is now readily available to be run on a Mac and because macs specs are better, they'll run better too.

4) Most importantly.. if absolutely necessary, you CAN run windows on any apple computer

[vbnautilus]

4) Most importantly.. if absolutely necessary, you CAN run windows on any apple computer

But like I always say, why would I want to put a lawnmower engine in my Porsche?

[nutzbuster]

haha.. well everyone commenting here only has one side of the opinion. I for one used a PC daily for about 7 years, and have been using a Mac on a daily basis for about the last 4 so i know both sides of the equation. To answer some of these questions

1) They charge so much more for them because they are all premium models, meaning the hardware and software is above average and they have no lower end models because they are one company with very few partners. Ex. Toshiba puts there name on a laptop but it only has 1 or 2 Toshiba parts. Apple makes everything, and at a high end therefore charges more.

2) I'm not saying all PC's are doomed for failure, but I am saying that I know a lot of people on both sides of the coin and generally PC's breakdown a lot sooner/easier than apple. Theyre not more complicated. In fact, if you were to use a mac for 2 weeks i guarantee you would find it simpler than a PC. Want to delete a program, you drag two files into the trash instead of having to go through Add/Remove Programs, which a lot of people arent even aware of.

3) Companies not making mac-compatible software/games is virtually a thing of the past. Any commercially popular program or game is now readily available to be run on a Mac and because macs specs are better, they'll run better too.

4) Most importantly.. if absolutely necessary, you CAN run windows on any apple computer

But like I always say, why would I want to put a lawnmower engine in my Porsche?

My wife has a Mac and I use the shit out of it because it is different and fun to use. I love both equally tbh. but Macs have won me over.


Only potential problem for Daniel is.... I don't think PokerStars runs on Macs, unless things have changed???

[JubilantLankyLad]

haha.. well everyone commenting here only has one side of the opinion. I for one used a PC daily for about 7 years, and have been using a Mac on a daily basis for about the last 4 so i know both sides of the equation. To answer some of these questions

1) They charge so much more for them because they are all premium models, meaning the hardware and software is above average and they have no lower end models because they are one company with very few partners. Ex. Toshiba puts there name on a laptop but it only has 1 or 2 Toshiba parts. Apple makes everything, and at a high end therefore charges more.

2) I'm not saying all PC's are doomed for failure, but I am saying that I know a lot of people on both sides of the coin and generally PC's breakdown a lot sooner/easier than apple. Theyre not more complicated. In fact, if you were to use a mac for 2 weeks i guarantee you would find it simpler than a PC. Want to delete a program, you drag two files into the trash instead of having to go through Add/Remove Programs, which a lot of people arent even aware of.

3) Companies not making mac-compatible software/games is virtually a thing of the past. Any commercially popular program or game is now readily available to be run on a Mac and because macs specs are better, they'll run better too.

4) Most importantly.. if absolutely necessary, you CAN run windows on any apple computer

oh for pete's sake. i mean, i like macs just fine, but get your facts right.

1) not true
2) first part not true, hardware related. second part true, mac OS is very well designed in this regard
3) not true
4) true. because they're the same parts.

[repoman042]

oh for pete's sake. i mean, i like macs just fine, but get your facts right.

1) not true
2) first part not true, hardware related. second part true, mac OS is very well designed in this regard
3) not true
4) true. because they're the same parts.

1) I dont know how you can even dispute this. There is essentially 2 models of each mac. High end, and extremely high end. Go to apple.com and look at the specs for each laptop/desktop. I never said they were of the highest end, but they are of equal to any PC costing over 2000$. There is no $500 mac because they only design high end computers.

2) Absolutely true. Research from many computer websites/magazine testing the PC vs. Mac debate has concluded apple computers are more built to stand the test of time. The New York Times used desktop macs from the mid 90's up until 2005 for instance.

3) Umm.. a simple google search for software or game with 'for mac' attatched to the end of it will prove that to you. I'm a mac user, and have never needed/wanted a program/game that wasnt mac available.

ANND... pokerstars DOES indeed have a mac version, in fact, im using it right now

[JubilantLankyLad]

1) I dont know how you can even dispute this. There is essentially 2 models of each mac. High end, and extremely high end. Go to apple.com and look at the specs for each laptop/desktop. I never said they were of the highest end, but they are of equal to any PC costing over 2000$. There is no $500 mac because they only design high end computers.

2) Absolutely true. Research from many computer websites/magazine testing the PC vs. Mac debate has concluded apple computers are more built to stand the test of time. The New York Times used desktop macs from the mid 90's up until 2005 for instance.

3) Umm.. a simple google search for software or game with 'for mac' attatched to the end of it will prove that to you. I'm a mac user, and have never needed/wanted a program/game that wasnt mac available.

ANND... pokerstars DOES indeed have a mac version, in fact, im using it right now

1- ahh yes, ok, that part is mostly true. however, apple does not make all the parts. they don't make much more than any other computer maker. but yes, you're right, there is a rough equivalency between a $2k mac and a $2k windows box.

2- compare apples to apples (oops, i mean $2k apples to $2k PCs) and you'll find the same, or similar, useful lives. there are cheap, easily breakable PCs, sure, but we aren't comparing $500 PCs to $2k macs, right?

3- there have been great improvements in this, but the simple fact is that most software is designed for windows, because most PCs run windows. this is why #4 happened - because people want to run all their windows sw on their (very nice, mostly) apple hardware.

[Merby]

4) Most importantly.. if absolutely necessary, you CAN run windows on any apple computer

But like I always say, why would I want to put a lawnmower engine in my Porsche?

So that you can also mow the lawn with your Porshe, obviously.

In all seriousness, I was a tech-savvy PC owner for ~10 years, but have made the switch to a Mac and am never going back.

[vbnautilus]

My wife has a Mac and I use the shit out of it because it is different and fun to use. I love both equally tbh. but Macs have won me over.


Only potential problem for Daniel is.... I don't think PokerStars runs on Macs, unless things have changed???

PokerStars has a mac version.

[LongLiveYorke]

For the record, my next computer is going to be a Macbook. The main reason is that it's Unix based so I can run code on it. And so I can look cool and pick up hot, nerdy chicks with it.

[vbnautilus]

For the record, my next computer is going to be a Macbook. The main reason is that it's Unix based so I can run code on it. And so I can look cool and pick up hot, nerdy chicks with it.

Yeah, the unix factor is huge. Everyone is using macs for science nowadays.

[navybuttons]

imo, how mac is going to win the war is with it's linking capabilities. got an iphone and you want your entire lap top music hard drive on it? no problem, takes less than 10 minutes. need it on your iphone, just plug it in.

mac's aren't the computers that you want. they are the computers that you need.

i'd imagine they're developing an iphone w/o a camera for government use. game ova.

[vbnautilus]

imo, how mac is going to win the war is with it's linking capabilities. got an iphone and you want your entire lap top music hard drive on it? no problem, takes less than 10 minutes. need it on your iphone, just plug it in.

mac's aren't the computers that you want. they are the computers that you need.

i'd imagine they're developing an iphone w/o a camera for government use. game ova.

With the new version of Keynote you can use your iPhone as a remote to control the presentation. I normally have my computer right next to me when I talk, but I am giving a pres on Tuesday and I will stand all the way across the room from my computer and advance the slides magically from my iphone.

BECAUSE I CAN.