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[FCP Bob]

Zorfox, on Friday, August 20th, 2010, 4:37 PM, said:

Can anyone direct me to the "original thread"?

It's the first post in this thread, that's what Daniel updates.

[rinspy]

Zorfox, on Friday, August 20th, 2010, 9:37 PM, said:

Can anyone direct me to the "original thread"?

This is the original thread. Check out the first post, that's where updates are posted.

[DanielNegreanu]

Updated today. Playing a bit tighter than I was originally at these stakes and am back on track.

[DanielNegreanu]

Playing now

[custom36]

DanielNegreanu, on Tuesday, August 31st, 2010, 5:23 PM, said:

Playing now

any chance this plays out differently if you're not you? I mean, 128 players waiting in line is kinda insane. And I'd think you'd get a lot looser players who want to play against a famous pro. Wish I could watch you play against typical competition...though I know that's unrealistic.I don't know if you can see the observer chat, but it's kind of insane too.

[DanielNegreanu]

I don't look at the observer chat no.

[drewlovesomaha]

Like 95 percent of the people who are on this forum I truly enjoy watching Daniel play WPT and WSOP, like reading his blog and feel he is good for the game of poker in a way many high stakes pros are not. Having said this, it cracks me up to think about this so-called "challenge". Since it is meaningless to Daniel in terms of making a difference in his finances it really doesn't symbolize anything close to what most micro-limit players experience. It is a nice PR thing for Poker Stars and I believe he is sincere about it, but if you gave the average low limit grinder 10 grand (not even 100k) it would absolutely change their life. That, in my opinion, is the trouble with putting any money on any online site - unless you have several thousand dollars to invest, it is mostly a crapshoot - at the lowest limits the rake is truly a stronger opponent than your actual opponents. People do succeed but I am guessing it is like 1 in 10. Personally, I have won over 1000 dollars in a year of doing HORSE and PLO freerolls on Full Tilt but have been one and two outed out of 400 of that 1000. I guess if I ever get over 1500 I will play cash again, but only limit Hold Em. My honest recommendation to 90 percent of the population is to use online poker only as a training tool - i.e. to learn different games or try out more aggressive tournament strategies - People do well online but twice as many people lose more than they can afford to. It is like trying to be a professional athlete - those 3 percent who actually make it live a great life but it is an unrealistic goal for most and none of the sites or pros who represent them do a responsible job of portraying these long odds.

[10kHero]

drewlovesomaha, on Friday, September 10th, 2010, 8:22 AM, said:

Having said this, it cracks me up to think about this so-called "challenge". Since it is meaningless to Daniel in terms of making a difference in his finances it really doesn't symbolize anything close to what most micro-limit players experience.

You sound very negative!I'm sure this challenge is NOT meaningless to Daniel. Financially yes, but I'm sure he gets great satisfaction, like most poker players, in achieving his goals. No matter how large or small.I’m aiming to achieve something similar, a true challenge (without the 100+ waiting list and have-a-go heros!). Even if Daniel doesn’t need to prove himself at micro stakes, I’m sure he feels the same satisfaction I do, with a nice consistant positive profit graph!

[drewlovesomaha]

10kHero, on Sunday, September 12th, 2010, 9:29 AM, said:

You sound very negative!I'm sure this challenge is NOT meaningless to Daniel. Financially yes, but I'm sure he gets great satisfaction, like most poker players, in achieving his goals. No matter how large or small.I’m aiming to achieve something similar, a true challenge (without the 100+ waiting list and have-a-go heros!). Even if Daniel doesn’t need to prove himself at micro stakes, I’m sure he feels the same satisfaction I do, with a nice consistant positive profit graph!

That's cool 10k hero, I wish you good luck! My point is that for someone like you, there is alot more meaning attached. For the record I like and admire Daniel and love the game of poker, it has been very good to me. Obviously, I like and trust live poker much more than online. Even with that, the local cardroom I play at which is less than 5 minutes from home, has lost alot of it's regular players in the last few months, so I have to drive an extra hour to the local casino for a regular game. Poker is a great game but the average player is just not talented enough to turn a long term profit and should view it as a form of entertainement. In the last 10 years I have played regularly in Florida and Michigan in Hold em and Omaha hi lo games at least 4 days a week - in those games I am the biggest winner by far but I have only seen 5 or 6 others who I believe to be consistent winners out of hundreds of people. Even when it hurts my bankroll, if a fellow player asks me for advice I will tell them to cut down on how often they play and find other hobbies if they are a losing player -- again good luck to you with your goals.

[ellokillo]

how is that going Daniel?

[DanielNegreanu]

updated

[DanielNegreanu]

Playing right now started with $41.45

[Tehtoe]

Updates on 10kHero plz

[ezelisko]

Daniel, whats the best way, do you think, to approach the micro-limit in terms of ring games?

[Phatty]

DanielNegreanu said:

Micro Challenge: Still surviving. My goal was to turn $10 into $100,000 with a very aggressive bankroll plan, but I've been stuck at the $0.25-$0.50 level for quite sometime now. I've played 1782 hands at that limit and am down $87.65. My bankroll now sits at $166.03. You can follow the progress of that challenge at my personal website, www.fullcontactpoker.com. Go to the Forums, then find the Daniel's Blog section, and you'll find a stickied thread there with all my results.

I read that quote from your recent blog entry on 02/05/2011 and thought I'd pop in here just to let you know that the micro and small stakes games just got a LOT better in terms of quality on 02/10/2011. PokerStars dropped the 50bb max NLHE games and properly labeled the 40bb-100bb games as the "default" no limit games. Fish and casual players had been funnelled to the 50bb max games in the past, thus making the 100bb max games a more difficult "reg fest". However, with this recent change, 100bb max games are REALLY good again with a better mix of casual players, regs, and everyone in between.My point for mentioning this is that whatever success you had at $25NL, you should now have that same success at $50NL in your Micro Challenge imo. And, when you're ready to move up $100NL, the play and challenges you had at $50NL should be similar @ $100NL and so forth.

[Veranor]

I'm curious how the night went. He was on there at the .25/.50 tables. I couldn't stay on though because the rail gives me a migraine.Edit: Saw the update. Looks like not too well. Hopefully the tides will turn. I really want to see this challenge completed.

[rinspy]

This thread explains everything.Back when Daniel met Barack Obama, he already knew he would be undertaking this challenge. As such, an agreement was made, so that if things don't go so well with this challenge, the events that unfolded on Black Friday would follow to ensure that the challenge can be put on hold indefinitely.It all makes perfect sense now.

[Darth Maple]

Is this challenge still going?

[KingJames]

Darth Maple, on Saturday, June 11th, 2011, 8:35 AM, said:

Is this challenge still going?

Well DN can't play on PS while in the states. He has alluded to spending time in Toronto starting this fall?? maybe so that he can uses his Canadian-ness to play online and stuff.

[MBoyle]

i play a lot of Micro...one thing you rarely do is bluff. If you do its only to player you Know fold to reraises otherwise if they hit anything theyll call...if you do bluff only take one shot if they dont fold isnt worth it

ezelisko, on Friday, February 11th, 2011, 3:23 AM, said:

Daniel, whats the best way, do you think, to approach the micro-limit in terms of ring games?