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#1 Absolute

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 01:38 PM

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with A:spade:, A:club:. 2 folds, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.Flop: (13.50 SB) J:spade:, 9:spade:, K:spade: (3 players)UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets
i saw him at the riverbank. he was breaking bread and giving thanks. with crosses made of pipes and planks. leaned up against the nitrous tanks.
he said take a hit. hold your breath and i'll dunk your head. then when you wake up, you'll be high as hell and born again.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 01:44 PM

I hope you're not serious.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 01:44 PM

[quote=Absolute]PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is CO with A:spade:, A:club:. 2 folds, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.Flop: (13.50 SB) J:spade:, 9:spade:, K:spade: (3 players)UTG+2 checks, MP2 betsThree bet that biyatch. You've got the Ace high four flush, and pocket A's... hmmm, what's so scary about this one dude? Even if someone flopped a set, or a straight, you've still got 9 outs for the nutz flush, and 2 more Aces out there.If the board pairs, I might slow down, but otherwise I'm shootin this pot up. Chances are with the spades out there, the other guys will play very cautiously and might fold right there.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 01:45 PM

wrto4556 said:

I hope you're not serious.
i am, do i want the overcall here?
i saw him at the riverbank. he was breaking bread and giving thanks. with crosses made of pipes and planks. leaned up against the nitrous tanks.
he said take a hit. hold your breath and i'll dunk your head. then when you wake up, you'll be high as hell and born again.

- The Hold Steady

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 01:46 PM

no. You want to protect your hand from gut shots.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 01:46 PM

[quote=BeanGW][quote=Absolute]PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) [url="http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi"]converter[/url]Preflop: Hero is CO with A:spade:, A:club:. 2 folds, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls.Flop: (13.50 SB) J:spade:, 9:spade:, K:spade: (3 players)UTG+2 checks, MP2 betsThree bet that biyatch. You've got the Ace high four flush, and pocket A's... hmmm, what's so scary about this one dude? Even if someone flopped a set, or a straight, you've still got 9 outs for the nutz flush, and 2 more Aces out there.If the board pairs, I might slow down, but otherwise I'm shootin this pot up. Chances are with the spades out there, the other guys will play very cautiously and might fold right there.[/quote]clearly foldign isnt an optionthe question is do i want the overcall or not
i saw him at the riverbank. he was breaking bread and giving thanks. with crosses made of pipes and planks. leaned up against the nitrous tanks.
he said take a hit. hold your breath and i'll dunk your head. then when you wake up, you'll be high as hell and born again.

- The Hold Steady

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 01:47 PM

You pound this pot like you would WRTO's mom until the river. Unless you get 3 bet on the turn when a scary card comes off.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 01:48 PM

you are right, this is silly.question though.........i raise and get 3bet and call (i think this would be correct)do i just call down the rest if no fourth spade comes?
i saw him at the riverbank. he was breaking bread and giving thanks. with crosses made of pipes and planks. leaned up against the nitrous tanks.
he said take a hit. hold your breath and i'll dunk your head. then when you wake up, you'll be high as hell and born again.

- The Hold Steady

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 01:49 PM

Raise, raise, raise.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 01:50 PM

TheIceman05 said:

You pound this pot like you would WRTO's mom until the river. Unless you get 3 bet on the turn when a scary card comes off.
I think you play like a puss. Personally, id raise.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 01:50 PM

Trono said:

Raise, raise, raise.
But be careful of a three bet, and slowdown on the turn
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 02:13 PM

why is this question even being asked, eaisest. raise. ever.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 02:20 PM

Raise the **** out of that. I might even say cap the flop if 3-bet, though I'm on a hyper-aggressive streak lately.What he does on the turn is going to tell you more about his hand strength.No, you don't want overcalls at all.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 06:10 PM

You easily cap that flop. Assuming he has any sort of sense in capping PF, the only hands you're losing to are JJ and KK, and you have 10 clean outs to beat either of those. It's worth taking the chance that he might have some TQ or 8Qs trash for all the times you will be winning here.Even versus JK you've got 14 outs, which is roughly 50/50 to make it, plus he could fold if a T/Q hits and you're reckless.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 06:49 PM

The reason this question came up is because of the raise preflop. But with our equity/chance of having the best hand we want to raise.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 06:55 PM

wrto4556 said:

TheIceman05 said:

You pound this pot like you would WRTO's mom until the river. Unless you get 3 bet on the turn when a scary card comes off.
I think you play like a puss. Personally, id raise.
Would you cap the turn if a non-good card comes off and you're 3 bet? Is anything you're ahead of (statistically) making it 3 bets?Ice

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 07:04 PM

Not with out improvement.I think it's likely that we are beat. Probably 65/35 but since we have a 30% equity edge on the flop we are now the favo...theoretically.I dont know what im trying to say...I would slow down to aggression.
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 07:31 PM

wrto4556 said:

Not with out improvement.I think it's likely that we are beat. Probably 65/35 but since we have a 30% equity edge on the flop we are now the favo...theoretically.I dont know what im trying to say...I would slow down to aggression.
She-it... then back off calling me a pussy, B.




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