how much to reraise preflop in nl

[powerpoker 0]

i was wondering how some of you might handle this situation...say you were playin 1-2 NL and someone from early-mid position came in for a standard raise to 8 dollars...there were two more callers and you look down at AA...what would be the typical re-raise amt in this scenario...there would be 27 dollars in the pot before the blinds act...sorry you are either on the button or one before

[Rocketwadster 0]

Depends on the opponent, but I think a pretty standard re-raise is about the size of the pot. :wink:

[allinbluff35 0]

i was wondering how some of you might handle this situation...say you were playin 1-2 NL and someone from early-mid position came in for a standard raise to 8 dollars...there were two more callers and you look down at AA...what would be the typical re-raise amt in this scenario...there would be 27 dollars in the pot before the blinds act...sorry you are either on the button or one before

what is your table image? how deep are the stacks? has the table been playing loose preflop or tight preflop? passive or aggressive postflop? all of these things should come into consideration before you pop it up. If your opponents have a clue they will define your hands within a range of hands depending on your table image.

[econ_tim 0]

The pot is already quite large, so you should be happy to take it down here. I would bet the pot (reraise by $30) or maybe make a slight overbet, and maybe someone with KK will push if you're lucky. If everyone folds, no big deal.

[Royal_Tour 0]

what is your table image? how deep are the stacks?These 2 are key..

[NickTheKid 0]

Push baby, push.

[powerpoker 0]

yea i pretty much figured on the pot size raise i was just double checking...but yea i know that table image and chips stacks and so forth matter...thanks for the input guys....we need more NL cash game talk on here... :wink:

[NickTheKid 0]

Pushing will get you 1 caller at most probably, and you will get your money in with the best hand, pushing is the best bet here.

[allinbluff35 0]

Pushing will get you 1 caller at most probably, and you will get your money in with the best hand, pushing is the best bet here.

how is pushing best here? explain your reasoning

[NickTheKid 0]

A push of what he has, whatever it may be (100$?) will scare off everybody except people with high pocket pairs. He would be getting his money in with the best hand, and he would cut the field down to at MOST 3 players (You +2 callers). It is the best play.EDIT: Better yet, he might even be up against someone with AKs or something.

[powerpoker 0]

well if i only had lets say 100 left and i moved that most likely will give me the pot...if i re-raise another 30 on top most likely anyone who will call that raise will put me all in or move all in themselves if i have them covered...so there is a shot that all the money will get into the pot on way or another i just want there money to be in with mine instead of pushing and having them all drop to my 65 dollar or so re raise....make any sense or am i wrong here :roll:

[NickTheKid 0]

What you wrote I didn't understand.

[Rocketwadster 0]

well if i only had lets say 100 left and i moved that most likely will give me the pot...if i re-raise another 30 on top most likely anyone who will call that raise will put me all in or move all in themselves if i have them covered...so there is a shot that all the money will get into the pot on way or another i just want there money to be in with mine instead of pushing and having them all drop to my 65 dollar or so re raise....make any sense or am i wrong here :roll:

which do you prefer, winning a small pot with your aces, or losing a big pot because you let some crap hand in for cheap? :wink:

[NickTheKid 0]

From what I gathered however, I think I know what you are saying but I disagree. There are lot's of players who nickle and dime themselves and just work themselves into pot commitment before the flop with stuff like AKo: "Oh what's another 8 bucks? What's another 16, I've already put in 8?"I don't really like to get cute with my AA, I generally raise it up pre-flop, but if I am raised before it gets too me I push. It works out far more often than not.

[powerpoker 0]

hey theres diff ways to play any hand...i mean its not like im going to raise another 8 i would have raised the pot at least which was another 30 on top of his 8...anyway...yes i rather win lots of small pots...im not one for slowplaying every time i got a hand...once in a while ok but thats only when i got the deck crippled...but i understand the push as well...i guess it does depend on who my opponents are and my table image as well

[Royal_Tour 0]

well if i only had lets say 100 left and i moved that most likely will give me the pot...if i re-raise another 30 on top most likely anyone who will call that raise will put me all in or move all in themselves if i have them covered...so there is a shot that all the money will get into the pot on way or another i just want there money to be in with mine instead of pushing and having them all drop to my 65 dollar or so re raise....make any sense or am i wrong here :roll:

which do you prefer, winning a small pot with your aces, or losing a big pot because you let some crap hand in for cheap? :wink:

i hate to break it to you, but in a 1/ 2 game, and a pot size of 27 , a re-raise of 30, (more than the pot) is not cheap, and anyone who calls that is forced to have a hand of some sort.if its a question of should he raise, or push all in, he should definetly stick to a large raise, There is a great chance that he can get multiple callers, or an even better chance that someone goes over the top of his raise.

[Rocketwadster 0]

which do you prefer, winning a small pot with your aces, or losing a big pot because you let some crap hand in for cheap? :wink:i hate to break it to you, but in a 1/ 2 game, and a pot size of 27 , a re-raise of 30, (more than the pot) is not cheap, and anyone who calls that is forced to have a hand of some sort. Break it to who, me or the OP? I was agreeing with you, so this must be directed at the OP, no?if its a question of should he raise, or push all in, he should definetly stick to a large raise, There is a great chance that he can get multiple callers, or an even better chance that someone goes over the top of his raise.

[Royal_Tour 0]

i hate to break it to you, but in a 1/ 2 game, and a pot size of 27 , a re-raise of 30, (more than the pot) is not cheap, and anyone who calls that is forced to have a hand of some sort. Break it to who, me or the OP? I was agreeing with you, so this must be directed at the OP, no?if its a question of should he raise, or push all in, he should definetly stick to a large raise, There is a great chance that he can get multiple callers, or an even better chance that someone goes over the top of his raise.Ohh. sorry. i mis-understood the post.. my bad

[powerpoker 0]

i was tryin to say the same thing as royal...but im on 4 hrs of sleep so im not thinking clearly...i would figure that if someone called my pot sized raise that they would not only call but most likely put me all in or move all in themselves thats all...but my original question got answerd before which was...what would be the standard raise in that situation

[NickTheKid 0]

It's very stupid to assume you will get 4 callers with a push. you are much more likely to lose the pot on the flop if you are up against 4 players. I stand by my push.

[Royal_Tour 0]

It's very stupid to assume you will get 4 callers with a push. you are much more likely to lose the pot on the flop if you are up against 4 players. I stand by my push.

where do u come up with these posts?.. who said anything about 4 callers?The debate moved from what is a good play, to should it be a re-raise or a push.PushA- a push can win you the hand, (most likely)B- a push can get u a callerRe-raiseA- a re-raise can get you a couple callers,B- a re-raise can get 1 caller, 1 over the top, and then you callor evenC- a re-raise can get you 1 over the top all in, followed by a possible call, then back to you, now with multiple all-in's

[NickTheKid 0]

What I meant to say was 4 players.Pushing is best.

[NickTheKid 0]

Re-raiseA- a re-raise can get you a couple callers,B- a re-raise can get 1 caller, 1 over the top, and then you callor evenC- a re-raise can get you 1 over the top all in, followed by a possible call, then back to you, now with multiple all-in's

A - You do NOT WANT THISB - DoubtfulC - This is a worse situation than A

[Royal_Tour 0]

Re-raiseA- a re-raise can get you a couple callers,B- a re-raise can get 1 caller, 1 over the top, and then you callor evenC- a re-raise can get you 1 over the top all in, followed by a possible call, then back to you, now with multiple all-in's

A - You do NOT WANT THISB - DoubtfulC - This is a worse situation than A

so let me get this straight.. with a raise before you, you do not want any callers??? how does that make any sense?1st off., its AA, i would love to be up against KK, AK, or QQ, hell i would love to be up against 3 other guys all at the same time with those cards Vs. my AA.what you want in this hand is to maximise your profit to be made off the original raiser, who is showing signs of strong cards. And a raise will scare away any low suited connectors that could get lucky.A push could easily scare away AK, or JJ.. see what most of these posters are trying to say.

[NickTheKid 0]

I think the point is you don't want multiple callers with AA. The most you want is 2 people in the flop against you, I still say push.This is why you are a limit player and I am a no-limit player.