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[dscoot]

In order to make the bracelets more winnable to your average Joe, they are considering eliminating the rebuy events.The 2-7 lowball rebuy and the the other rebuy events that only get 85-200 entrants, fine, please eliminate those. Those games itself arent even worthy of a bracelet, and adding a rebuy to it makes it even more stupid, also the fields are more pro-heavy/rich people heavy who can blow a bunch of money.The 1k NL rebuy, however, should not be eliminated. It gets around 800-900entrants, and the first prize recently has been near 750k, which ends up being around the 3th or 4th biggest 1st place prize in the entire Series. Sure you can go deep in that tourny by spending 25grand and building a stack, but you can also do it by spending only 3g, and Im sure there are some final tableists who have done it with only 1 or 2k investment. Another terrible change is the winner take all format. Sure it sounds cool, but in reality, who wants to play 3days, make the final table, finish 4th or even 2nd, and not pocket a dime!? If the goal is to eliminate tournies that give a crazy advantage to the pro's (like the rebuys), then this is a step in the opposite direction. A lot of people that normally would be happy to enter a 3k tourny, play 1.5days and walk away with 7k, would now not enter these tournies. Who would enter these tournies? People with a crap load of money and big time pro's only. The idea of winnertakeall is neat, but in reality, how about a Final Table Take all? If this tourny is a $1500buyin with 600 entrants, the prize pool would be 900k. Cant they just do 3% each to 9,8,7,6. (27k) - 7% each to 5,4,3 (63k) - 17% to 2ndplace(153k) and 50% to first? (450k) The flat payjumps would help create a style of play at the FT where people arent just waiting to move up the payscale, they still have incentive to win it all.If this is not possible, how bout just paying the top 3 finishers? The idea is great, but to only pay 1 person in such a large field is ludacris. Maybe if the field only has 150 entrants, winnertake all is cool, but if its a cheap buyin event, this should have a field over 500 and approaching 1000.

[PrtyPSux]

they're adding a winner take all? That's ridiculous, the buy in better be $25k+ or else it'll be pointless with the amount of people asking to chop every time someone busts.

[FARGOpokerND]

Link??(too lazy to look myself)

[dscoot]

cardplayer.com front page poker news

[king1305]

I don't think Daniel would want to eliminate the rebuys, just sayin.

[oldmangrimis]

I think the bracelets should mean more then it does now, so i like less tournament. I also think rebuy help TV Pro win a bracelets becouse they have more cash and more backers. They rebuy like 15 becouse the get more TV money if the have the most bracelets. Don't think that all rebuy should go. I does not help the avg Joe get one but make it fair for no sponsored player. I think alt games like lowball should have a bracelet becouse it a diffrent game of poker.

[Balloon guy]

Did they change the 3 month delay for the FT ME?

[dscoot]

Balloon guy, on Wednesday, December 10th, 2008, 2:00 AM, said:

Did they change the 3 month delay for the FT ME?

not announced yet, nothing is official, but it looks no is the answer

[FARGOpokerND]

king1305, on Wednesday, December 10th, 2008, 3:46 AM, said:

I don't think Daniel would want to eliminate the rebuys, just sayin.

"Daniel Negreanu, four-time bracelet winner and a member of the Player Advisory Council, is an advocate of the proposed change.“I am 100 percent against rebuy tournaments at the WSOP,” said Negreanu. “They are fine for other venues, but not for a bracelet.”The popular Canadian player said that the rebuy events are not fair to the average player who doesn’t have an endless amount of money to pour into the event.“Frankly, it gives players like me an unfair advantage in terms of winning the Player of the Year award,” said Negreanu."owned

[Dirtydutch]

Do you seriously believe deuce-seven doesn't deserve a bracelet event?

[Dirtydutch]

FARGOpokerND, on Wednesday, December 10th, 2008, 2:33 AM, said:

"Daniel Negreanu, four-time bracelet winner and a member of the Player Advisory Council, is an advocate of the proposed change.“I am 100 percent against rebuy tournaments at the WSOP,” said Negreanu. “They are fine for other venues, but not for a bracelet.”The popular Canadian player said that the rebuy events are not fair to the average player who doesn’t have an endless amount of money to pour into the event.“Frankly, it gives players like me an unfair advantage in terms of winning the Player of the Year award,” said Negreanu."owned

Cash games are also unfair to "the average player," as he doesn't have an endless supply of money to pour into them. You know what else isn't fair to average and below average players? Poker.

[dscoot]

Dirtydutch, on Wednesday, December 10th, 2008, 2:33 AM, said:

Do you seriously believe deuce-seven doesn't deserve a bracelet event?

If 5card draw isnt an event, then this shouldnt be either

[Dirtydutch]

dscoot, on Wednesday, December 10th, 2008, 3:43 AM, said:

If 5card draw isnt an event, then this shouldnt be either

A lot of people still play 2-7. No one plays 5-card-high.

[Balloon guy]

dscoot, on Wednesday, December 10th, 2008, 2:43 AM, said:

If 5card draw isnt an event, then this shouldnt be either

They need more holdem events

[king1305]

dscoot, on Wednesday, December 10th, 2008, 5:43 AM, said:

If 5card draw isnt an event, then this shouldnt be either

Go Fish.

[FARGOpokerND]

Dirtydutch, on Wednesday, December 10th, 2008, 4:36 AM, said:

Cash games are also unfair to "the average player," as he doesn't have an endless supply of money to pour into them. You know what else isn't fair to average and below average players? Poker.

I think the WSOP needs more $100 events....they also need to add .25/.50 cash games on the side.What a hit that would be.

[whatgreatis]

FARGOpokerND, on Wednesday, December 10th, 2008, 2:49 AM, said:

I think the WSOP needs more $100 events

Dude, I don't have an endless supply of money to pour into these things.

[fighter]

interesting fact. from article

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There have been some tiny fields and some unique formats in past decades. One of Doyle Brunson’s 10 bracelets came in a $600 mixed doubles event with Starla Brodie in 1979, when the two players beat out 14 other entries to win a modest $4,500.

[babylondonks]

Dirtydutch, on Wednesday, December 10th, 2008, 9:46 PM, said:

A lot of people still play 2-7. No one plays 5-card-high.

I played this for drinks and little chocolate lollies last friday. After I won I proceeded to stake the two losers and win it off them again. Given my skills I think we definately needs a "drinks and little chocolate lollies" buyin event at the WSOP this year. We could play for a candy bracelet!

[Governator]

Or they could just limit the # of rebuys...