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#1 DCWildcat

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 08:59 PM

$10 buy-in Habitat for Humanity charity tournament to see if I can play the big DN 8)Reads: button is very fishy. Several hands before, he called a preflop raise with 48s, called a bet on the flop of A62, called yet another on the turn of a 3, and raised when the final card was a 5, for a straight. Yeah, that bad. 10/20 blindsHero: A :D A :) UTG***Preflop***: Hero raises to 100, 6 folds, button calls, SB folds, BB calls.Large raise, but I knew I'd get the callers. Most were around his skill level.***Flop***: Q :) T :D 4 :diamond:BB checks, Hero checks, button bets 200, BB folds, Hero raises to 600, button reraises all-in, Hero calls.I had him on a Q, and I doubted he even had a good kicker. QJ, Q9, the like.Was it bad for me to risk my tournament when he could have me beat here, or was my call justified based on his fishiness?

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 09:03 PM

How many chips do you have total to start the hand? How many does he have?Without much else to go on, I think I've gotta fold. Even if he is a LAG, the hand you previously described, he called down. He wasnt raising. I have the button pegged as a calling station, and only raises with what he thinks is the nuts (i.e. two pair).
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 09:06 PM

Sorry i forgot to include all that. Blinds were 10/20, I had roughly 2000, he had roughly 2500. Also, blinds were as follows:5-1010-2020-4030-6040-8050-100at 10 minute intervals.

#4 Patricnz

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 09:31 PM

I agree with your callhe would go all in with top pair if he calls down with nothing to catch a straighthes shown he has bluffed before and that he will do it again so call its only 10 dollars and what other flop are you going to lay down to with aces the board wasnt paired so he at best could have a set which is unlikely and he could also have two pair which is unlikely he most likely has top pair if he has proven he is a fish in the past.paragraphs are not my friend :D

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 09:33 PM

so call its only 10 dollars pretend i didn't write that.

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 10:13 PM

i would have bet the flop instead of going for the check raise...most likely i would call in this situation even though if you do fold you are still fine in chips but this player is capabale of anything so i would put him on TpGk...what happend?

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 10:17 PM

check/raising this flop is gross. What do you hope to accomplish by doing so?
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Posted 16 May 2005 - 12:12 AM

wrto4556 said:

check/raising this flop is gross. What do you hope to accomplish by doing so?
right. this is your big problem. it sounds like your button fish is of the calling station variety from your read, so bet into him straight off and let him call you down. usually, the straight up calling stations don't raise without a huge hand, and i think you'd be justified in tossing aces to a push to a big postflop raise.the checkraise really gets interpreted as weakness by a big fish, and can only lead to trouble in games with horrible play. bet out, go from there.

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Posted 16 May 2005 - 10:03 AM

checkymcfold said:

wrto4556 said:

check/raising this flop is gross. What do you hope to accomplish by doing so?
right. this is your big problem. it sounds like your button fish is of the calling station variety from your read, so bet into him straight off and let him call you down. usually, the straight up calling stations don't raise without a huge hand, and i think you'd be justified in tossing aces to a push to a big postflop raise.the checkraise really gets interpreted as weakness by a big fish, and can only lead to trouble in games with horrible play. bet out, go from there.
I was hoping to induce a bluff bet from the button--the board was ugly enough that I figured there was1) No benefit to anyone, and my check would let button bet at it to win me a little extra or2) He'd benefit (QJ or so), think I'm trying to bully him out, and push his chips in a fish like manner, allowing me to double up.In retrospect, I should lead out.




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