dingas 0 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 This was a 2-4 LHE game, six handed.I was dealt AsJs in the cutoff. UTG limped, 1 fold, I raised it up, button 3-bet, blinds folded, utg 4-bet, I called, button called.The flop came Ks Jc 3sUTG bets, I raise, button 3-bets, UTG 4-bets, I call, button calls.The turn came 3dUTG bets, I call, button raises, UTG 3-bets, I call, button 4-bets, UTG calls, I callThe river came9sUTG bets, I raise, button 3-bets, UTG calls, I 4-bet, button calls, UTG calls. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 9 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Edit. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 9 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 I Stoved it, giving the Villains a range of something like AA, KK, JJ, AK, KJ, Ts9s, and you still have better than 16%...anyone think these ranges are way off?; those are pretty on-the fly.Edit: obviously some of those are WAY less likely than others, though, and you'd need reads to say. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 9 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 Edit. I quoted instead of editing. Link to post Share on other sites
MovingIn 0 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 How aggressive was this game? Were these two raising frequently?Reads or not, though, I think one of them has a boat on the turn. I'd be all for a cheap showdown, but once UTG 3bets the turn, I'm sure we're facing a boat in a normal game. If we're talking two LAGs, however, that changes things. I'm not sure how much here, though. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 9 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 How aggressive was this game? Were these two raising frequently?Reads or not, though, I think one of them has a boat on the turn. I'd be all for a cheap showdown, but once UTG 3bets the turn, I'm sure we're facing a boat in a normal game. If we're talking two LAGs, however, that changes things. I'm not sure how much here, though.My initial thought was that this is a boat 1000% of the time, but in an aggressive, Hero is so obviously on a big draw that KJ and AK or AA could all me doing this, to try to fold him out or punish him. It's usually a boat, though. Link to post Share on other sites
KoRnholio 2 Posted December 6, 2008 Share Posted December 6, 2008 One of the villains has KK here like always. I just call the river and hope it's UTG, so that the other villain just calls and I can showdown for 1BB rather than 3 or 4 on those times my flush is no good. Link to post Share on other sites
dingas 0 Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 Does anyone think this should be a fold on the turn when it's two bets back to me? I agree that raising the river was not good - I guess I was on autopilot a little bit when I hit my draw. Link to post Share on other sites
MovingIn 0 Posted December 7, 2008 Share Posted December 7, 2008 Does anyone think this should be a fold on the turn when it's two bets back to me? I agree that raising the river was not good - I guess I was on autopilot a little bit when I hit my draw.I think the answer to that question depends on how aggressive the two villains in question were playing at this table.With no reads, I think you're done once the 3bet comes on the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
GCP 0 Posted December 11, 2008 Share Posted December 11, 2008 I think you fold this turn for one bet with all those raises sure to come behind you. You're probably drawing dead and it's not like you have a made hand. Link to post Share on other sites
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