mrpossum 0 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $5.00+$0.50 Tournament, 25/50 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flop | saw showdownSB (t6148)BB (t6690)Hero (UTG) (t3700)UTG+1 (t10150)MP1 (t2040)MP2 (t3442)MP3 (t3345)CO (t4225)Button (t3010)Hero's M: 49.33Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, 10Hero calls t50, UTG+1 calls t50, MP1 calls t50, 5 folds, BB checksFlop: (t225) 3, 8, K(4 players)BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checksTurn: (t225) A(4 players)BB checks, Hero bets t150, UTG+1 raises to t400, 1 fold, BB calls t400, Hero calls t250River: (t1425) 8(3 players)BB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 bets t9700 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero foldsTotal pot: t1425Results in white below: UTG+1 didn't showOutcome: UTG+1 won t1425 Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Fold preflop, fold river.River could be a call if you think he's doing this with any ace or as a bluff but he looks very strong here. Could be a set/better ace/random 8. I doubt it's A9 or A4-A7 often if at all. I also doubt it's an 8 other than A8/K8 but you never know. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 God, what a horror show of a hand... Link to post Share on other sites
shpaget 0 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Fold preflop.River is interesting.Remember - only two aces beat you. A8 and AK. Every other Ace is a chop. So, you could be calling to split. That, to me, is reason enough to fold.If he's bluffing, good for him...he'll eventually bluff when you have a stronger hand.There might even be an argument here for folding the turn. On the turn, do you think you're ahead? Or are you just lost? Another reason to fold this hand preflop.If you're ahead on the turn you're ahead on the river (or tied). He isn't raising with Q8 on the turn. As played, I wonder if there's an argument to bet 800-1000 on the river after BB checks. The only reason I can think of betting the river is to prevent a bluff....but maybe he's bluffing with a weak ace, where after a bet he'll only call with it.Regardless, your mistake was preflop, and it cost you nine big blinds. Link to post Share on other sites
cubsfan44 0 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Fold preflop, Fold turn, Fold river Link to post Share on other sites
BeaverStyle 1 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Folding this preflop stops you from ever being in this situation. I never raise UTG here w/ A10os, and I certainly don't limp. Folding>>>>>>Raising>Calling Link to post Share on other sites
MovingIn 0 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Open limping ATo UTG ewwwwwwwwwwwwwww Link to post Share on other sites
mrpossum 0 Posted November 21, 2008 Author Share Posted November 21, 2008 So folding ATo is because we are OOP or it is a lousy hand. Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 So folding ATo is because we are OOP or it is a lousy hand.Both. I probably wouldn't start playing aces UTG with anything less than AQ at that blind level, and I would never limp.Limping it is the worst thing you can do because of the reverse implied odds if you hit in a multiway pot. Link to post Share on other sites
Gallo 1 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 So folding ATo is because we are OOP or it is a lousy hand. Both. I probably wouldn't start playing aces UTG with anything less than AQ at that blind level, and I would never limp. Folding this preflop stops you from ever being in this situation. Folding>>>>>>Raising>Calling Link to post Share on other sites
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