slt1der 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 EDIT: Bleh on the title too. Can't correct the subject title now.Villain is 80/12/1.57 over roughly 50 hands or so. I played this hand so badly that I am still bleeeeh.Advice on all streets appreciated. Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 playersThe Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterHero (MP): $10.00CO: $8.25BTN: $7.25SB: $15.05BB: $10.00UTG: $3.50Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with A Q 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, SB calls $0.30, 1 foldFlop: ($0.80) 9 3 6 (2 players)SB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($0.80) 7 (2 players)SB checks, Hero checksRiver: ($0.80) A (2 players)SB bets $2.30, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 i really think you need to call this river. I mean I don't hate it but I don't love it. Against a player like this I think he is going to be make big bets with bluffs thinking he has too. Also he called in the SB so his range is really really wide here. What range are you putting him on? Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I think you have to call unless you put him on AK Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 EDIT: Bleh on the title too. Can't correct the subject title now.Villain is 80/12/1.57 over roughly 50 hands or so. I played this hand so badly that I am still bleeeeh.Advice on all streets appreciated. Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 playersThe Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterHero (MP): $10.00CO: $8.25BTN: $7.25SB: $15.05BB: $10.00UTG: $3.50Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP with A Q 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, SB calls $0.30, 1 foldFlop: ($0.80) 9 3 6 (2 players)SB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($0.80) 7 (2 players)SB checks, Hero checksRiver: ($0.80) A (2 players)SB bets $2.30, Hero requests TIME, Hero foldsI've never called in this spot and not seen the backdoor flush. Link to post Share on other sites
JaNnN 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 I think this is a good fold. Either has a crappy 2 pair or a backdoor flush most of the time and he is probably hoping you cannot lay your ace away if you have one.If the bet in the end was smaller I'd def call here but why take the risk in a cashgame if you can wait for better spots. Link to post Share on other sites
SGFULTON83 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Easy fold, what do you think he would bet 2.30 into .80 with besides the floosh? Link to post Share on other sites
Chet Chetterson 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Shouldn't there be a C-bet the majority of the time on the flop, since it's blind vs. blind and you have position? Link to post Share on other sites
slt1der 0 Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Yes, there should've been a c-bet the majority of the time, but because it's a calling station, I didn't think it would be a good idea since he would be uncapable of laying down any mid to top pair. Maybe my thinking is wrong here. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 EDIT: Bleh on the title too. Can't correct the subject title now.Villain is 80/12/1.57 over roughly 50 hands or so.you guys are on crack if you are folding top pair to this clown IMO Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 i would be you would see spades more than hearts. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 i would be you would see spades more than hearts.Really? There's no action on the flop or turn. Spades might get fruity somewhere along the line here I think. Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 Really? There's no action on the flop or turn. Spades might get fruity somewhere along the line here I think.your right it was late I was confused, but I still call here Folding to a 82/12/1 or whatever is silly. Link to post Share on other sites
Jariso13 1 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I think calling or folding will depend on your read on the guy and how he has been playing. Is he up or down money? Against a normal player i prob fold here. I would have had to see this guy pull off other weird plays to think my aq is good here. Link to post Share on other sites
Solar 0 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I just call. Villain could flip anything here. true I feels silly when he shows me two hearts, but i think he has crap more than half the time. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I would call here for two reasons:We probably have the best hand some percentage of the time but not a tonIf we don't, we find out cheaply what a huge overbet on the river means from this villain, which is SO key imo to know about people.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 A couple of things: 1) What are his call open and fold to CB percentages?2) When people bluff in micro stakes cash games, they usually do so on the flop or turn. Massive bets on the river are almost always big hands trying to look like bluffs or trying to squeeze more money when the pot is small. The times he makes that bet with the flush or AK greatly, greatly outnumber the times he does so with a bluff or a weaker hand. Link to post Share on other sites
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