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[Emptyeye]

No real reads yet, though the final person who stayed in the hand has an AF of .25 (Yes, a quarter of one) after 62 hands.PokerStars 0.05/0.10 Hold'em (7 handed) converterPreflop: Emptyeye is CO with [Jd], [Jh]. UTG calls, 2 folds, UTG calls, Emptyeye calls.Raise jacks, call a 3-bet.Flop: (9.40 SB) [Kh], [2s], [9d] (3 players)BB bets, BB calls, UTG calls.I'm raising despite the overcard here because I put the BB on a continuation bet. I'm intending to fold to a 3-bet here, as that will tell me he has at least the king. No 3-bet means I think I'm good.Turn: (7.70 BB) [6h] (3 players)BB checks, UTG checks, Emptyeye bets, BB folds, UTG calls.Bet it all the way down after encountering no further resistance.River: (9.70 BB) [4d] (2 players)UTG checks, Emptyeye bets, UTG calls.See above.Final Pot: 11.70 BBToo aggressive on the flop? Or was my thinking correct?

[Vade]

I like your thinking on this hand. If you are three-bet you are willing to pitch your jacks, and your raise takes control of the hand. Well done.

[bigkg]

Vade said:

I like your thinking on this hand.  If you are three-bet you are willing to pitch your jacks, and your raise takes control of the hand.  Well done.

I am with Vade here, I like you raising on that flop. It is still possible that he could have a King with his AF so low.

[wrto4556]

im not sure.What 3-bets preflop that you beat? TT...that's it.

[Vade]

wrto4556 said:

im not sure.What 3-bets preflop that you beat? TT...that's it.

He's representing a K. Would there be some fold equity over QQ here? Also, some players would 3-bet AQ or AJ, but not with an aggro factor of .5Or would they occasionally?

[Emptyeye]

It was the guy who stayed in to the end that had the really low AF, not the preflop raiser (Who folded on the turn). Preflop raiser is very aggressive (PFR of 17.24, AF of 4.66), though with only 29 hands logged on him, it's hard to gauge how accurate that really is. The little I've gathered on him seems to say he really likes ace-x, and will follow preflop aggression with postflop aggression until he encounters resistance. I don't know precisely what he'd 3-bet here that I have beat, though AQ seems to be his most likely holding here.The guy who stayed in until the end, showing no strength whatsoever, seems to be the classic ATM...72% VP$iP(!), the aforementioned low as hell AF after 62 hands.

[bdc30]

On a semi-side note, am I the only one that finds itdifficult to critique ANY play at 5/10 cent limits, sincethe amounts are so tiny?

[rivercardbandit]

bdc30 said:

On a semi-side note, am I the only one that finds itdifficult to critique ANY play at 5/10 cent limits, sincethe amounts are so tiny?

Probably not, but the point in this forum section is not the limits being played, but the play itself. I've learned a lot from this section and rec'd a ton of help. I play .25/.50 as I don't have the bankroll to play any higher yet. The point is to learn from your mistakes and become a better player.

[DKE_XP120]

bdc30 said:

On a semi-side note, am I the only one that finds itdifficult to critique ANY play at 5/10 cent limits, sincethe amounts are so tiny?

When I look at a post I dont even look at the limit

[KDawgCometh]

wrto4556 said:

im not sure.What 3-bets preflop that you beat? TT...that's it.

AQs too. but yea, dump this flop

[rwood]

from looking at the original post...i agree with taking the lead in a hand most of the time, but i dont see a hand you beat here after the flop that would 3 bet you preflop, TT but unlikely. you could have been 3 bet with AK AA KK QQ or even KQs. after taking the lead and not getting much resistance on the later streets i would almost certainly put him on KQ or AK... he's callng down his tpsk or tk because you have played your JJ so strongly, although itwould have been difficult to put you on a huge hand preflop because you didnt cap...i just dont see you having the best hand here....imo, espescially because the bb led into not one but 2 players, he has to have a hand, that he thinks is best with that K on the board. i think overplayed....ya...he also may be fishy calling down with QQ....

[Dirtydutch]

In .05/.10 a hand like Ace9 with(or without) a3 flush are possiable.just an incomplete though.

[Emptyeye]

Yeah, I see everyone's point. Some may remember me posting awhile back about needing to become more aggressive. I think right now, I'm at a point where I've overcompensated for it and am almost TOO aggressive, as in spots like this. As for what I'd raise but not 3-bet, 99 is very possible, but that's really the only thing I'd be representing here that has him beat (And, as mentioned, I would reasonably raise and call a 3-bet with). As it turned out, I did manage to move him off of whatever he had, but UTG unfortunately called me down all the way with AKs. I quickly noted that he was the least aggressive player ever (At no point pre OR post-flop did he attempt a bet/raise) and moved on.Thanks everyone.