kikijiki 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP ($20.45)CO ($31.55)Button ($59.15)Hero (SB) ($46.80)BB ($38.35)UTG ($25)Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 3UTG raises to $1, MP calls $1, 1 fold, Button raises to $4Total pot: $3.35Fold or not? Since he raised that mutch he is squeezing or has a high pair. If I hit a set 1/11 hands I can probably take his whole stack witch is more than 3.75*11, but I have 2 ppl behind me yet to act. What is the correct play here. Also UTG is rather passive and MP is very aggressive. Button has rerised preflop a couple of times in the last hands, but was tight overall.My play - fold. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP ($20.45)CO ($31.55)Button ($59.15)Hero (SB) ($46.80)BB ($38.35)UTG ($25)Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 3UTG raises to $1, MP calls $1, 1 fold, Button raises to $4Total pot: $3.35Fold or not? Since he raised that mutch he is squeezing or has a high pair. If I hit a set 1/11 hands I can probably take his whole stack witch is more than 3.75*11, but I have 2 ppl behind me yet to act. What is the correct play here. Also UTG is rather passive and MP is very aggressive. Button has rerised preflop a couple of times in the last hands, but was tight overall.My play - fold.I think this is a fold. There's not enough implied odds HU (this has been discussed ad nauseum lately, search simo's posts), and we're not closing action, raising is unthinkable, and if we do get everyone flatting PF and in the hand to get the odds AND hit our set, we still stand a good chance of getting stacked playing this hand 4 ways on more than half the boards we'll see roll out. Link to post Share on other sites
mrpossum 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP ($20.45)CO ($31.55)Button ($59.15)Hero (SB) ($46.80)BB ($38.35)UTG ($25)Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 3UTG raises to $1, MP calls $1, 1 fold, Button raises to $4Total pot: $3.35Fold or not? Since he raised that mutch he is squeezing or has a high pair. If I hit a set 1/11 hands I can probably take his whole stack witch is more than 3.75*11, but I have 2 ppl behind me yet to act. What is the correct play here. Also UTG is rather passive and MP is very aggressive. Button has rerised preflop a couple of times in the last hands, but was tight overall.My play - fold.In the event if you call and get re-raised from one of the 2 players behind you it puts you in a tough spot. I wouldn't call unless you end the betting round. Link to post Share on other sites
Lee_LightsOut_B 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 This situation is a common problem with playing small pocket pairs facing an early raise and a button reraise .... when you see your cards you need to have a plan from the time action starts suchs as for the dollar I will flat call and take a flop .... if facing raise i ditch the hand etc .... Given the actions and the reads i say cut the hand loose and wait for a better spot Link to post Share on other sites
SGFULTON83 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I fold this hand in the SB facing raise and re-raise. Maybe position would make a difference here, but with original raiser still to act its still a tough spot. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 This is really easy fold I think Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Instasnapfold. Not close.In position, closing the action, it would be a closer decision. Link to post Share on other sites
albertoflamingo 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Fold, it's gonna be pretty hard to get his stack since we're OOP here and there's no guarantee that we'll get his stack because he can be reraising a pretty wide range from the button. I probably fold this in position as well, it's just gonna be very hard to make money with the hand here. Link to post Share on other sites
Dictius 0 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Being out of position is what makes this an easy fold. Link to post Share on other sites
RickyG033 0 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Def Fold because OOP Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 Fold, it's gonna be pretty hard to get his stack since we're OOP here and there's no guarantee that we'll get his stack because he can be reraising a pretty wide range from the button. I probably fold this in position as well, it's just gonna be very hard to make money with the hand here.This is pretty much what I think. The fact that we have 192BB effective stacks I think does swing it a bit in the other direction. If the 3better is like a 7/6 or something then I'd be more inclined to call than if he's capable of a squeeze.IP I'm probably more inclined to call, but I find it hard to argue with albert Link to post Share on other sites
HollywoodAFD 0 Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I think it's a no brainer fold.Small pairs PF with at least 2 players who have something is a weak hand.Just fold and let them fight it out. Link to post Share on other sites
ship 0 Posted November 21, 2008 Share Posted November 21, 2008 what simo said snap foldnot close Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted November 22, 2008 Share Posted November 22, 2008 I think this is a no brain fold up to pocket 99's. I have no idea what to do in this situation with pocket tens. Link to post Share on other sites
Sens-Eh 0 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 fold AINEC Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 This is really easy fold I think Link to post Share on other sites
1nausp1c1ous 0 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 OK, so the unanimous vote is for folding here and I agree 100%. Let's just pretend we had 9's here instead, what would be everyone's line? I find mid-pockets to be my toughest hands to play. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 OK, so the unanimous vote is for folding here and I agree 100%. Let's just pretend we had 9's here instead, what would be everyone's line? I find mid-pockets to be my toughest hands to play. This is really easy fold I think Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I think this is a no brain fold up to pocket 99's. I have no idea what to do in this situation with pocket tens. OK, so the unanimous vote is for folding here and I agree 100%. Let's just pretend we had 9's here instead, what would be everyone's line? I find mid-pockets to be my toughest hands to play.I think if we aren't closing the action and don't have position, we're in a tough spot with a lot of hands, even up to JJ and possibly QQ. Here's some "now what" situations. So let's say we play 99 and the flop is: J32 A78any sooted flopKTJ8T6QT6JJ4AK9KQ9KJ9TJQ... and there's heavy action? Point is we HAVE to hit the flop so hard to get our chips in on the flop, because one thing is certain: with the PF action, we're probably going to see a shove on the flop. It really helps to know the 3 betting ranges of the players in this hand. Link to post Share on other sites
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