chrispycream 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10+$1 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB (t3185)Hero (BB) (t4485)UTG (t3005)MP (t4270)CO (t5127)Button (t5150)Hero's M: 19.93Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 91 fold, MP raises to t450, 3 folds, Hero calls t300Flop: (t975) J, 6, 10(2 players)Hero checks, MP bets t450, Hero calls t450Turn: (t1875) 6(2 players)Hero checks, MP bets t900, Hero raises to t2400Total pot: t3675Wondering what some of you think about my shove...(I realize that I should have just gone all in, but I don't think that matters since I have 970 behind, since villian will know I am committed regardless). I think I under-represented my hand and that I could easily be good. Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I don't hate it. Been there, done that! I'd re-raise preflop depending on the read in most cases. Flatting here really sucks because you are basically playing for set here and you really aren't deep enough. Link to post Share on other sites
MovingIn 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Why are we calling pre and c/c'ing a flop bet? A call pre might be okay, but the only reason I'd c/c a flop bet is if I was drawing to the nuts (or close to it) or knew I had villain beat. 99 here with a weaker flush draw isn't close to either.I don't see how we're good here often enough for this line to pay off. Link to post Share on other sites
chrispycream 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Author Share Posted November 13, 2008 I thought outloud to myself that I might just be guessing by raising all in - yet I still did it because I thought that I represented a very strong hand.I think calling the raise preflop oop is the best play. I think folding preflop with 99 is way too weak, while reraising oop bloats the pot unnecessarily and puts us in a terrible spot if we are re re raised. After the turn, I can definitely see an argument for check folding. But as played, if you were the villain, what would you call me down here with? Link to post Share on other sites
mrpossum 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I think most of the time he would be c-betting the flop.If he calls your raise on 4th street he probably has Ah or Kh.It might even have been a monster for him with ATo with Ah.But i wouldn't raise on 4th street.I feel that since you c/c the flop and villian fire 4th street , i would throw my hand away. Link to post Share on other sites
Viticus 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 you essentially turned your hand into a bluff here. however, it is a pretty good bluff. you have shown a ton of strength by flatting that flop and then check raising that turn. unless he has a big hand or drawing a big draw i dont see getting a call here. Link to post Share on other sites
SGFULTON83 0 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 I would have raised the flop, not a terrible play on the turn although I would have put it all-in if I was going to make this play. Link to post Share on other sites
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