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[BigDMcGee]

If an attentive opponent see's that you're folding alot of rivers to raises, doesn't this set you up to be bluffed off alot of hands on the river when ever there are scare cards, which is often? I guess it's something to use agaainst loose/passive players, but I think folding on the river too much can be a potentially devistaing error, and If i see people who fold to raises alot, start raising them more... I dunno, I like CM's on many level's, but I think that it can set you up for a potentially fatal weakness in your game... food for thought..

[Absolute]

The situation where you are heads up, out of position, the flop is suited, you bet it get called. the river comes blank, you bet it get called. the river comes the fourth suit, you bet it.These are the stipulations for CM's theory. It happens once every thousandth hand or so. Not enough to make it "readable"No to mention the times he raises you and you actually have the flush.Your point is valid but incorrect. Clarkmeister's theory is better for expective value than any other line in this particular situation

[wrto4556]

His point is absolutely correct. Also with the check/call check/call bet/fold line. If I notice someone is pulling those lines, I will raise with something I know that has them beat every-once-in-a-while.CM's theorem should generally be used against most players. But against very aggressive and tricky players, it's better to check/call because they will bluff or represent a better hand.

[avsfan]

If an attentive opponent see's that you're folding alot of rivers to raises, doesn't this set you up to be bluffed off alot of hands on the river when ever there are scare cards, which is often?If you are talking about skilled attentive opponents then yes. Imho. I dunno, I like CM's on many level's, but I think that it can set you up for a potentially fatal weakness in your game... food for thought..I don't know and have not seen clarkmasters idea. So I have no comment on its validity.Imho

[RISEorFall]

A theory from Mike Caro...sometimes you should call on the end even when you know you're beat. People may think you're a little fishy/crazy, but they'll be less likely to try and bluff you. I think in most sessions on the internet the kind of hands where Clarkmeister's theory applies happens rarely enough that you won't play against most opponents enough for them to pick up on it.