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#1 wrto4556

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Posted 14 May 2005 - 09:53 PM

UTG is loose and passive but not too loose.SB is semi-retarded.5/10 (5 handed)Preflop: I get delt Q :), 7 :) in the BB.UTG calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, I check.Flop: (3sb) 2 :club: , Q :club: , 9 :D (3 players)SB checks, I bet, UTG calls, SB folds.Turn: (2.5BB) T :club: (2 players)I bet, UTG calls.River: (4.5BB) 9 :D (2 players)I.......with the intention of...
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 09:55 PM

bet/fold. small pot so you don't need to fight over it. The key being is that UTG is passive, so a raise from them will mean a nine more than likely
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 09:56 PM

I think he's got the same Q-x as you do actually, he's passive so he's not raising. With 4.5 BB out there, I'd check with the intention of calling
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 09:59 PM

Vade said:

I think he's got the same Q-x as you do actually, he's passive so he's not raising.  With 4.5 BB out there, I'd check with the intention of calling
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 09:59 PM

Age old river question. What hands call me that I have beat?
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 10:01 PM

Ace 10

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Posted 14 May 2005 - 10:02 PM

smallish pocket pair

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Posted 14 May 2005 - 10:10 PM

A middle pair and Ace high.Not very much.
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 11:24 PM

This one im not sure about. Against an aggressive player, this is an easy check/call because he will bluff.Against this guy, im not sure, though. I'll give results after a few more posts.
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 11:33 PM

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This one im not sure about. Against an aggressive player, this is an easy check/call because he will bluff.Against this guy, im not sure, though. I'll give results after a few more posts.
this guy being LP means that this is a bet/fold spot easy. He didn't raise with a possible flush out there. It is possible thatyou can get JJ,88,or 77 to cal you here. I wouldn't doubt that he might even call you w/A high since I wouldn't doubt that you have an aggressive image. If he raises you know that your beat
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 11:35 PM

He would raise JJ preflop, FWIW. He's not horribly loose/passive.
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 12:09 AM

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He would raise JJ preflop, FWIW. He's not horribly loose/passive.
true. I just got through a session tonight where some donks were limping utg w/Big pairs, and I couldn't nail any of them on it :evil: . Oh yeah, let me know about my stats, nit :-)
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 03:00 AM

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UTG is loose and passive but not too loose.SB is semi-retarded.5/10 (5 handed)Preflop: I get delt Q :), 7 :)  in the BB.UTG calls, CO folds, Button folds, SB completes, I check.Flop: (3sb) 2 :club: , Q :club: , 9 :D (3 players)SB checks, I bet, UTG calls, SB folds.Turn: (2.5BB) T :club:  (2 players)I bet, UTG calls.River: (4.5BB) 9 :D  (2 players)I.......with the intention of...
well, I would c/c, but with the clarkmeister, since this guy is loosepassive, the better play proably would be to bet, and fold to a raise, since this guys easily would call you down with under pair to queen, but also coulda been calling you down with a nine, or made a flush on the turn, and wouldn't raise you without having you beat, so you can muck in confidence.. I check call too much on the river, i think, and i'm really liking clarmeister.. i think bet/fold would be the way to go..

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 03:11 AM

Likely hood of him having...jack ten ( open ended flop) king ten, ace ten eight ten ( gutshot flop) pocket pair ( proably would have raised with JJ, but may call you with under pocket pair to the nine's) and a pair of twos ace hgih, king high ( king high not very likely, and acehigh not real likely, it depends like was said on your table image..) over all, i think there's enough hand;'s he'll call a river bet with, that you should bet/ fold.. check call is weak, because he's unlikely to bluff.. maybe check fold is the way to go, but i'm not a fan of folding to one bet when the there's 5.5 big bets in pot.. now, if you check, he may check down a better hand than yours, like a better queen, or even a nine fearing the flush, or a flush fearing the full house, but these seem unlikely, the best hand he would check down is a better queen... is he so passive he wouldn't have raised on the flop with AQ or KQ? if he's not that passive, then the only queen hand you can't beat the he'd check down is qj.. and since he's passive, he's not going to raise you without a real big hand, perhaps just calling with flushes and trip nines... over all, since you're not likely to be raised, and I think you pretty much have to call a single bet on the river, that you should bet/ fold the riv..

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 07:31 AM

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well, I would c/c, but with the clarkmeister, since this guy is loosepassive, the better play proably would be to bet, and fold to a raise, since this guys easily would call you down with under pair to queen, but also coulda been calling you down with a nine, or made a flush on the turn, and wouldn't raise you without having you beat, so you can muck in confidence.. I check call too much on the river, i think, and i'm really liking clarmeister.. i think bet/fold would be the way to go..
This isn't a clarkmeister hand because there's only 3 flush cards on the board
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Posted 15 May 2005 - 09:38 AM

Cool.Yall have convinced me.I check/called and he bluffed with J :D ,xsomething.Out of character, I guess.
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