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rocketpoker828

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I like it, for this year the Pistons will have a great scorer in AI, and then next year when Sheed/AI's contracts expire, they can go after a big free agent (Dwayne Wade? LeBron?)

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I like it, for this year the Pistons will have a great scorer in AI, and then next year when Sheed/AI's contracts expire, they can go after a big free agent (Dwayne Wade? LeBron?)
It's 2 years from now when a ton of top players like LeBron, Wade and Bosh are free agents not next year.
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It's 2 years from now when a ton of top players like LeBron, Wade and Bosh are free agents not next year.
Hmm, thought I read that it was next year, sorry.
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I say good move for Detroit. Get rid of a ton of cap space, get a name player who will fill up seats and up the tv ratings. Unload Sheed next year and then you can get 2 FA's while keeping the core of youngins like stuckey around.Odd move by Denver though but the Pistons don't care.Word now is McD is not happy and may get the deal nixed.

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I don't like the move for Detroit (not looking at it money wise and contract wise). I've always thought of AI as a guy that can score and get some assists but isn't worth the attitude and money. Team wise I thought Detroit was good enough.

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I'm not too sure what to make of the deal. Teams trading fading stars nearing the end of their contracts. I guess you can say Detroit wins the financial side, but I think Denver wins the basketball side. Either way I think the deal is meh. Not really that big of a deal considering they are all old (by NBA standards) now.

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I don't like the move for Detroit (not looking at it money wise and contract wise). I've always thought of AI as a guy that can score and get some assists but isn't worth the attitude and money. Team wise I thought Detroit was good enough.
They were not good enough. It's the same team last year, no improvements, one year older, thus, not a championship team. This team was stale and going nowhere. Sure they would make the playoffs again but so what, they weren't winning it all.JoeD promised 5 months ago today he was going to make moves and get things going in the right direction and this started that.AI won't be here next year. This move is strictly for dumping large contracts to free up space to pick up two top tier FA's. This isn't bringing in AI to win this year.
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i guess Melo's value skyrockets after this?
Melo didn't relaly lose shot attempts with AI in the lineup. An increase in his value would mean wanting to rebound and play defense, neither of which is likely.
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Melo didn't relaly lose shot attempts with AI in the lineup. An increase in his value would mean wanting to rebound and play defense, neither of which is likely.
But we can assume that a PG like Chauncey will give Melo better looks than AI did. I think this is very good for Denver's D, but it seems like too little too late after they give away Camby. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't Nene and Martin expire in the same year as Chauncey?
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AI is consistently the most hated on athlete in the NBA. He is an extraordinary player and talent, who does, despite what people think, get a lot of assists and play tough defense ( though his size can limit his ability to do so effectively. People think he's a bad guy and a bad teammate and it's nonsense. He gets murdered out there, night in and night out, and still gives 100 percent. He absolutely kills himself. That Philly team was one of the absolute worst teams to make a finals ( that and Lebron's cavs), he completely carried that team on his back, and played through like 7 injuries, including a dislocated shooting elbow. AI is nails, he is still great (not good, but great) and should provide a spark for the pistons. If he was 6-4, he'd be in the conversation for the best guard of all time. I think he's the best player under six feet of all time.

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AI is consistently the most hated on athlete in the NBA. He is an extraordinary player and talent, who does, despite what people think, get a lot of assists and play tough defense ( though his size can limit his ability to do so effectively. People think he's a bad guy and a bad teammate and it's nonsense. He gets murdered out there, night in and night out, and still gives 100 percent. He absolutely kills himself. That Philly team was one of the absolute worst teams to make a finals ( that and Lebron's cavs), he completely carried that team on his back, and played through like 7 injuries, including a dislocated shooting elbow. AI is nails, he is still great (not good, but great) and should provide a spark for the pistons. If he was 6-4, he'd be in the conversation for the best guard of all time. I think he's the best player under six feet of all time.
Wow, I completely agree with you on something.
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JR Smith's fantasy value definitely goes up with this as he will now be starting (I assume). Good news for me because I have him.
OMG that's exactly what I was thinking..my Fantasy team just got THAT much better. I might consider trading some scoring for defense now with all the points my team has.other interesting story on the trade: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AgOO...o&type=lgns
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I think the move is a positive one, but only in the longterm. At this stage in their respective careers, Billups is a better player than Iverson (not to mention whatever time they lose from McDizzle, who has been quietly fantastic the last few years), so I am pretty sure Dumars is using this as a semi-hidden rebuilding block. 1) As everyone already knows, Rasheed and Iverson comes off the books after this year. They'll have 20+MM in cap space when that happens.2) Boozer is a free-agent this summer, and I think he might be a legit max-contract kind of player. You may disagree. Dumars may be targeting Boozer, or:3) The awesome free-agent crop in 2010 is going to reshape the league completely. I think Dumars wants to be a player. He probably can't get Wade or LeBron, but if he can offer a championship calibre lineup, he has a non-zero chance. Bosh will be a free-agent, too, and his value may be depressed some by the other superstars on the market, giving Detroit a shot to land him and set up for another Championship Run with a nucleus of Stuckey, Amir Johnson/Jason Maxiell, an aging Hamilton, and whatever young pieces fit well (Afflalo? Bynum? Hermann??).4) This trade gives Dumars even more reason to experiment. He was always upset with Larry Brown and Saunders because they never gave the kids enough tick. Now, a little short at the PG position, he can run Iverson out with Stuckey, or Stuckey/Hamilton, etc. Curry has been playing 10 or 11 guys all year, though, so it looks like Dumars finally found a guy who will play the younger guys, making his long-term decision making process a little easier. Obviously, the potential success of this deal in the longterm relies on a few things:1) Stuckey being the real ****ing deal.2) The Pistons making a splash in free-agency.If they can sign Bosh, and Stuckey ends up being fake Baron Davis, they'll have a reasonable window.WangEDIT- Don't be surprised if Dumars does something like move Hamilton for Al Harrington or something. If he sees a chance to blow this whole thing up, he'll do it. Unapolgetically.

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BigDMcGee

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I think you're 100 percent right. IN the short term, I doubt AI will help the pistons, but.... I don't think he could really hurt them either. I Don't think the Pistons were going to win a championship with Billups and McD, and I don't think they really will with AI, but AI could shake things up and who knows, they could catch lightening in a bottle. And if they don't? They have a massive amount of cap space.
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AI could shake things up and who knows, they could catch lightening in a bottle. And if they don't? They have a massive amount of cap space.
Exactly. I think Joe D. was planning on blowing things up all along, and this gives them a total freeroll for a deep run this year. Iverson's production this year is not the primary benefit, but a secondary one. It's a shot in the dark that has no downside (assuming Dumars's evaluation of the Pistons's championship chances with Billups were accurate). Wang
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