jmbreslin, on Monday, November 3rd, 2008, 6:54 AM, said:
Shoving is bad, you'll only get called by a hand that beats you.
So untrue... We get called by single diamonds a lot here, or a worse/better-but-now-worse ace a ton.Will a shove fold out a hand that is beating us? no.Will a shove be called by a range of hands we are currently beating? YesCan i improve over hands that call us and is currently beating us? Yes.You can make arguments that betting 3/4 of the pot or so is the best play, and then shoving a non-diamond turn is stellar. However, anyone with a high diamond is donk-shoving over our CB anyways, so the sequence is kinda pointless, imo.a CB of 3/4 of the pot can let something as stupid as T9 with the Ten of diamonds hand around and either get all our chips or fold out to another bullet on the turn, Considering how early in the SNG this is, we're far better off getting someone to put their money in bad or go home. The major downside of shoving, though, is it announces our hand to a degree.. Cuz anyone with 2 diamonds isn't shoving there.Remember: good players aren't playing 2 diamonds for a 5x BB raise. So you are likely in the pot with bad players. Bad players will make pot-sized calls, and even all-in calls. You are pretty deep-stacked to be shoving, but they are pretty deep-stacked to be calling, too..Any thoughts on a check-raise here OOP? It may be the only way to win money while ahead on this hand. Remember: neither opponent has a diamond here a fair bit of the time as well. We can snap off some bluffs and win some money from the naked 7 of diamonds by CR'ing.This is why i like omaha8, btw.. cuz this is such an easy, easy fold without a solid post-flop lowdraw.
Whatever angle it is, i am pretty sure it will be obtuse.
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