misplayed kk?

[CobaltBlue 662]

Cobalt is CO with K K :spade:2/4 table is super loose.Pre-flop:UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 raises, 1 fold, MP2 calls, Cobalt 3-bets, button folds, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 caps, MP2 calls, Cobalt calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 callsFlop (5 players) (10 BB): 3 T Q :heart:UTG bets, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 raises, Cobalt 3-bets, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP2 callsTurn (5 players) (20 BB): Q :club:UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls, Cobalt calls, UTG callsRiver (5 players) (25 BB): 9 :club:UTG checks, UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 folds, MP2 folds, Cobalt calls, UTG callsFinal Pot: 28 BB

[waldo 0]

thats just a hideous board for KK, i probably have to fold on the river cuz what can you beat, someone has to have at least a Q if not a straight, not much you can do there

[TheIceman05 0]

thats just a hideous board for KK, i probably have to fold on the river cuz what can you beat, someone has to have at least a Q if not a straight, not much you can do there

I agree that the board's horrible, but you absolutely have to call the river here. You're getting 27-1, and you can't can't can't lay this down when the pot's this big.Ice

[Vade 0]

Nh sir, even if it might be 3rd best :-/Gotta make the river call though.

[RISEorFall 0]

FIrst, as I'm from Tuscaloosa, I have to say you should get the hell out of Auburn. Second, it's pretty obvious that UTG+1 had a Q, he called every single bet until the turn when it hit then he woke up and started betting. But the pot is huge, 2 crying calls on the turn and river aren't horrible, but you're giving money away when it's obvious you're beat.

[KDawgCometh 2]

the pot is just wayyy too big to fold on either the turn or river. happens

[RISEorFall 0]

Yeah, it's huge. It's also extremely obvious you're beat. With as big as the pot is I'd have to call the turn to see if I could improve, and then having called the turn halfheartedly call the river. Aside from the board being scary, dude doesn't start betting at all in the hand til the 2nd Q hits.

[Emptyeye 0]

Second, it's pretty obvious that UTG+1 had a Q, he called every single bet until the turn when it hit then he woke up and started betting. But the pot is huge, 2 crying calls on the turn and river aren't horrible, but you're giving money away when it's obvious you're beat.

I basically agree with this, but as mentioned, with whatever insane odds he was getting on his calls, I also agree with the general sentiment that the pot's too big to fold. If UTG+1 is representing the queen rather than actually having it once out of many times (Though he's probably not ballsy enough to try the move twice), you're coming out ahead here.

[RISEorFall 0]

Oh I know, I'm not disagreeing with calling because the pot is so big. PLus you still have outs going to the river...not many, but some. I just don't see this guy almost ever not having the Q here, with this many people in the hand and this much action, it'd be completely retarded to bluff into this pot. He could have 2nd pair and the second Q coming think he has the best hand....I don't know I've seen it before.

[Dirtydutch 9]

It's really big, but if you know the guy you can maybe get away.It's pretty sure he has a set of Queens.

[CobaltBlue 662]

Alright...good to know that my thinking wasn't completely out of whack. I figured I was getting odds to hit my two-outer on the turn. With the other two folders between me and the bettor on the river...I felt like I had to call.UTG+1 took it down with QJ offsuit. UTG had JT offsuit.

[rwood 0]

just reiterating, you have to call with the odds you are getting laid....imo...