How Much To Raise A Multiway Preflop Pot With A Premium Hand?

[SlackerInc 0]

All three of these hands were from the same SNG, and in fact the AA and AK hands were consecutive. These players had a tendency to raise from EP or MP and then for several people to smooth call. Obviously I don't want to just add my call to the queue--I'd rather do that with a small pair, a suited ace or suited connector, right? Seems a poor idea with AA/KK/AK. So the question is, how much to raise?Okay, hmmm...the converter doesn't like these HH for some reason, so I'll just put them in without converting (sorry):PokerStars Game #21612639436: Tournament #117323665, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2008/10/30 5:16:09 ETTable '117323665 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: SlackerInc1 (1420 in chips) Seat 2: deepjack (660 in chips) Seat 3: dumbdoggie (2360 in chips) Seat 4: TakeTakeTake (2240 in chips) Seat 5: groove44 (1470 in chips) Seat 6: TRULY FLYING (2190 in chips) Seat 8: LoveBoogers (1430 in chips) Seat 9: makariri ika (1730 in chips) makariri ika: posts small blind 10SlackerInc1: posts big blind 20*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to SlackerInc1 [Kc Ks]deepjack: calls 20dumbdoggie: folds TakeTakeTake: folds groove44: calls 20TRULY FLYING: raises 80 to 100LoveBoogers: calls 100makariri ika: calls 90SlackerInc1: ?PokerStars Game #21612706682: Tournament #117323665, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/10/30 5:24:12 ETTable '117323665 2' 9-max Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: SlackerInc1 (1930 in chips) Seat 3: dumbdoggie (1820 in chips) Seat 4: TakeTakeTake (2180 in chips) Seat 5: groove44 (1615 in chips) Seat 6: TRULY FLYING (2255 in chips) Seat 8: LoveBoogers (2170 in chips) Seat 9: makariri ika (1530 in chips) makariri ika: posts small blind 15SlackerInc1: posts big blind 30*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to SlackerInc1 [Ad Ah]dumbdoggie: raises 60 to 90TakeTakeTake: folds groove44: calls 90TRULY FLYING: calls 90LoveBoogers: folds makariri ika: folds SlackerInc1: ?PokerStars Game #21612715732: Tournament #117323665, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/10/30 5:25:16 ETTable '117323665 2' 9-max Seat #9 is the buttonSeat 1: SlackerInc1 (2455 in chips) Seat 3: dumbdoggie (1730 in chips) Seat 4: TakeTakeTake (2180 in chips) Seat 5: groove44 (1285 in chips) Seat 6: TRULY FLYING (2165 in chips) Seat 8: LoveBoogers (2170 in chips) Seat 9: makariri ika (1515 in chips) SlackerInc1: posts small blind 15dumbdoggie: posts big blind 30*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to SlackerInc1 [Ad Ks]TakeTakeTake: folds groove44: calls 30TRULY FLYING: raises 90 to 120LoveBoogers: folds makariri ika: calls 120SlackerInc1: ?

[SGFULTON83 0]

Hand 1 I think I move all-in.Hand 2 I bump it up to about 270-300.Hand 3 I probably smooth call and see the flop and evaluate then.Just my opinions as these most definitely are not the optimal plays just what I would to. TIFWIW

[babyelephant 0]

Hand 1: I probably go to 350-400Hand 2: same as 1Hand 3: I would probably flat and re-evaluate. I wouldn't want to bloat the pot out of position with AKoDid you have any stats/reads on the villians? it would probably change how i played the first two hands.

[HighwayStar 8]

1.Shove or 3502.3003.Flat

[sennin 0]

1) shove, anything else looks too strong2) probably around 3503) flattaments

[Viticus 0]

agree w/ most.on the first one i dont even consider not shoving. no raise to 300 or 350 or any of that because you need to fold out the Ace rag hands in there. Honestly this early you are happy w/ doubling up or taking the modest pot the way it is. You dont want to play 3 way against AQsuited and 89 suited.

[SlackerInc 0]

on the first one i dont even consider not shoving. no raise to 300 or 350 or any of that because you need to fold out the Ace rag hands in there.

Or at least you want them to commit their money before they get to see whether the flop contains an ace!

[litlebullet 0]

400 on the first 2 handsflat the last one

[Mercury69 3]

1. Raise to 500, snap call any shove2. Raise to 300-3503. Shove

[Darth Maple 0]

1. Shove2. Re-raise to 300/4003. Flat call

[TrueAce13 18]

1. Raise to 500, snap call any shove2. Raise to 300-3503. Shove

I like these. Though, I don't know of a shove with AK, though I don't flat. I 3bet to about 500 and then snap a shove.

[SlackerInc 0]

Looks like the AA hand I played just as you guys suggested:PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $10+$1 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (7 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comHero (BB) (t1930)UTG (t1820)MP1 (t2180)MP2 (t1615)CO (t2255)Button (t2170)SB (t1530)Hero's M: 42.89Preflop: Hero is BB with A, AUTG raises to t90, 1 fold, MP2 calls t90, CO calls t90, 2 folds, Hero raises to t330, 1 fold, MP2 calls t240, 1 foldFlop: (t855) 2, 3, 9(2 players)Hero bets t450, 1 foldTotal pot: t855

[SlackerInc 0]

My apologies: I seem not to have kept the HH for the AK hand. But as I recall, I reraised similar to how I had raised the AA hand (which was the hand right before this one and I had shown my aces), but I got two callers, missed the flop, my c-bet got raised, I folded...and the two villains duked it out with their semi-junky hands (bah).Going back to the KK hand (which was actually the first one, sorry for getting them out of order): I raised to 520, and everyone folded.ETA: I do kind of wish I had shoved the AK hand, in retrospect. Or a flat call would be okay too. The reraise followed by c-bet ended up sucking!