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#1 serge

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:32 AM

After going through several ideas and trying to find ways for the Leafs to improve their situation I devised the following system.

Teams are only allowed to draft players based on the city that player was born or spent at least 5 years of their life in.

The boundary would be 250 kms and say if it lies in the same area(ie Buffalo and Toronto) only those teams are allowed to draft them.

This will be an instant hit as every player would essentially play for their hometown. Obviously some teams would go bankrupt and thats what we want anyway, weed out the bad cities..Love to see how many players Nashville and San Jose can ice within the Serge system.

If for example there is no NHL city in the area of the player(ie Russians and Europeans) then a complicated but fair system would be instituted.

Sort of like in the CFL you have to have a certain number of Canadian and certain number of imports.

Under my system you would need to have at least 20 players that are homegrown and 5 imports on your roster at all times.

This will also make the value of good Russian players go up. In return the country of the import would get a cut of the players salary, up to 15% per year.


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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:34 AM

QUOTE (serge @ Wednesday, October 29th, 2008, 9:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
After going through several ideas and trying to find ways for the Leafs to improve their situation I devised the following system.

Teams are only allowed to draft players based on the city that player was born or spent at least 5 years of their life in.

The boundary would be 250 kms and say if it lies in the same area(ie Buffalo and Toronto) only those teams are allowed to draft them.

This will be an instant hit as every player would essentially play for their hometown. Obviously some teams would go bankrupt and thats what we want anyway, weed out the bad cities..Love to see how many players Nashville and San Jose can ice within the Serge system.

If for example there is no NHL city in the area of the player(ie Russians and Europeans) then a complicated but fair system would be instituted.

Sort of like in the CFL you have to have a certain number of Canadian and certain number of imports.

Under my system you would need to have at least 20 players that are homegrown and 5 imports on your roster at all times.

This will also make the value of good Russian players go up. In return the country of the import would get a cut of the players salary, up to 15% per year.


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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:37 AM

It'd be awesome to see 12 year old kids get recruited by high schools that would be serving as a minor league affiliate of the NHL city they are in.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:37 AM

QUOTE (gruven @ Wednesday, October 29th, 2008, 8:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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obviously my idea is tongue in cheek..but come on..You think there are better players from Montreal than Southern Ontario???

Also seriously this can be some sort of an exbition tourney held every 4 years

Sort of like the Olympics,Ryder Cup deal..But with cities..

I like it
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:42 AM


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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:49 AM

QUOTE (serge @ Wednesday, October 29th, 2008, 8:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
obviously my idea is tongue in cheek..but come on..You think there are better players from Montreal than Southern Ontario???

Also seriously this can be some sort of an exbition tourney held every 4 years

Sort of like the Olympics,Ryder Cup deal..But with cities..

I like it

I am going to spend some time later and come up with my TORONTO team based on current NHLers...

I challenge everyone to do the same with your team..
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:50 AM

Well, Florida is screwed.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:52 AM

QUOTE (Speed Limit @ Wednesday, October 29th, 2008, 8:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, Florida is screwed.

no offence but as should be...We will have real hockey towns, with real hockey roots..

Not Vegas, Kansas City, Nashville etc..

There is a reason we dont have a NASCAR race in downtown Toronto.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:54 AM

QUOTE (serge @ Wednesday, October 29th, 2008, 9:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thoughts?


I think Gary Bettman would be a better commish than you would Serge. I can't think of anyone else I would put below him on the list.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:55 AM

QUOTE (Whiter Sr @ Wednesday, October 29th, 2008, 8:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think Gary Bettman would be a better commish than you would Serge. I can't think of anyone else I would put below him on the list.

I think you would like this idea, as a team in PEI would probably be competitive...We would let you ice all the PEI and Newfie players..Some good players from there.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:57 AM

I'll start with the goalies for Montreal...

Martin Brodeur
Roberto Luongo

We'll put J.S. Giguere in the pressbox in case of injury.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 09:00 AM

QUOTE (digitalmonkey @ Wednesday, October 29th, 2008, 8:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'll start with the goalies for Montreal...

Martin Brodeur
Roberto Luongo

We'll put J.S. Giguere in the pressbox in case of injury.

pretty good start...good to build a franchise from the goal out...

BTW, the more I think of this idea the better it is..Don Cherry on coaches corner last week was complaining that the Leafs dont draft enough players from Ontario. Also it would encourage cities that want to be competitive in the NHL, to spend money on their local minor hockey programs. This will grow the sport as a whole...

I think I will take this idea to a higher source and see what we can do.


Interesting stat..The top two current goalies in GAA are Ryan Miller and Tim Thomas..Both from Michigan
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 09:06 AM

Detroit Red Wings

Justin Abdelkader
David Booth
Jeff Finger
Mike Grier
Matt Hunwick
Brad Johnson
Ryan Kessler
Mike Knuble
David Legwand
Ryan Miller
Mike Modano
Brian Rafalski
Brian Rolston
Doug Weight
James Wisniewski
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 09:08 AM

QUOTE (Piddle Duck @ Wednesday, October 29th, 2008, 9:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Detroit Red Wings

Justin Abdelkader
David Booth
Jeff Finger
Mike Grier
Matt Hunwick
Brad Johnson
Ryan Kessler
Mike Knuble
David Legwand
Ryan Miller
Mike Modano
Brian Rafalski
Brian Rolston
Doug Weight
James Wisniewski
Mike York


see not bad...Thats a pretty decent team...

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 09:09 AM

QUOTE (serge @ Wednesday, October 29th, 2008, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If for example there is no NHL city in the area of the player(ie Russians and Europeans) then a complicated but fair system would be instituted.


This is the best part of your plan. See, it's a complicated solution, but thats ok, because it's also fair. I like the complexity of it. Things that are complex usually lead to success.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 09:12 AM

QUOTE (coesillian @ Wednesday, October 29th, 2008, 9:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is the best part of your plan. See, it's a complicated solution, but thats ok, because it's also fair. I like the complexity of it. Things that are complex usually lead to success.

that was a pretty profound and deep statement.


we are still working out the kinks...once finalized this will revolutionalize the NHL and it will be the number sport in North America and be on primetime network television drawing a top 10 audience.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 09:18 AM

Is Crosby available for the Montreal team? I'm sure he's spend at least 5 years within 250 kms of Montreal.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 09:19 AM

QUOTE (serge @ Wednesday, October 29th, 2008, 1:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that was a pretty profound and deep statement.


we are still working out the kinks...once finalized this will revolutionalize the NHL and it will be the number? sport in North America and be on primetime network television drawing a top 10 audience.


good, you are covering your bases there. You can put a 4 or a 5 or even an 8 on there.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 09:22 AM

I had done an experiement like this before the season started to see what a Team Quebec vs Team Canada without Quebecers would look like, here is the site I used and the results I got.

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Quebec


Forwards:

Martin St. Louis - Vincent Lecavalier - Alex Tanguay
Mike Ribeiro - Daniel Briere- Simon Gagne
J.P. Dumont - Jason Pominville - Patrice Bergeron
Guillaume Latendresse - Paul Stastny - Pierre-Marc Bouchard

Steve Bernier - David Perron - Antoine Vermette - Maxime Talbot - Torrey Mitchell


Defence:

Francois Beauchemin - Stephane Robidas
Philippe Boucher - Kris Letang
Alexandre Picard - Marc-Andre Bergeron



Goalie:

Martin Brodeur
Roberto Luongo
Jean-Sebastien Giguere
Marc-Andre Fleury
Jose Theodore
Pascal Leclaire






Ontario:

Forwads:

Rick Nash - Joe Thornton - Marc Savard
Nathan Horton - Mike Richards -Justin Williams
Jason Spezza -Jeff Carter- Eric Staal
Derek Roy -Jordan Staal - Andrew Brunette
Sam Gagner - Patrick Sharp - Andrew Cogliano


Daniel Carcillo- John Madden - Jonathan Cheechoo
Andy McDonald - Todd Bertuzzi- Rod Brind'Amour
Jason Arnott - Chris Neil - Sean Avery



Defence:

Dan Boyle - Chris Pronger
Kevin Bieksa - Rob Blake
Bryan McCabe - Marc Staal

Jay McKee - Steve Staios


Goalie:

Marty Turco
Ray Emery




British Columia:


Forwards:

Shawn Horcoff- Joe Sakic - Paul Kariya
Chuck Kobasew - Kyle Turris - Milan Lucic
Brendan Morrison - Mark Recchi - Rob Niedermayer
Andrew Ladd - Brett McLean - Ryan Craig



Defence:

Brent Seabrook - Eric Brewer
Shea Weber - Willie Mitchell
Josh Gorges - Ryan O'Byrne

Scott Hannan- Brad Lukowich
Dan Hamhuis - Steve Montador



Goalie:

Carey Price
Wade Dubielewicz





Others from Canada: Ryan Smyth - Sydney Crosby - Dion Phaneuf - Mike Green - Shane Doan - Jarome Iginla - Jay Bouwmeester - Duncan Keith - Ray Whitney - Dany Heatley - Ryan Getzlaf





Team Canada (without Quebecers):

Forwards:
Dany Heatley - Sydney Crosby - Rick Nash
Jarome Iginla - Mike Richards - Ryan Getzlaf
Marc Savard - Eric Staal - Shane Doan -
Joe Sakic - Joe Thornton - Paul Kariya

Defence:
Dion Phaneuf - Mike Green
Dan Boyle - Chris Pronger
Jay Bouwmeester - Duncan Keith

Goalie:
Carey Price
Marty Turco
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 09:32 AM

this is very cool
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