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#1 mrdannyg

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Posted 14 May 2005 - 11:48 AM

i'm playing mainly mildly loose low limit games. approx. 50% of flops are raised, usually from late position. hands have been 3-6 players. poor-average skill level.so my question is how to play QKo UTG or in the first 2-3 positions? raising seems like a dangerous play, but it seems like to good a hand to fold, but calling is weak, considering it seems to increase the likelihood of a late-position raiser, whom i will now be playing out of position and possibly being dominated.similarly, it seems to be the best idea to raise or fold when entering a pot first in early position (say, first 3 spots) with pockets. at what point do you raise instead of fold? in second or third position, should i be raising with 77 or 88, or folding? i have no problem folding 6s or lower from early position, but 77 and 88 seem, like QKo to be dangerous to raise but too good to fold.any thoughts?cheers,daniel

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Posted 14 May 2005 - 11:51 AM

RAISE!KQo is the bomb against poor players that will call your raise with K3s.
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 11:57 AM

I play KQ like I play AJ or AT--raise if I get the chance, fold it otherwise.KQs is almost certainly a raise in this position, correct?You said it was raised most of the time...have you seen how the post-flop play goes? Are they generally showing down solid hands, or raising with junk?

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Posted 14 May 2005 - 12:15 PM

raise it.KQo is way to good of a hand to fold/call. if you get 3 bet proceed with caution.

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Posted 14 May 2005 - 12:34 PM

suited i think so, if only because PF raisers get paid off big time when they hit flushes. playing it the same as A10-Aj sounds good, raising or folding early position.cheers,daniel

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Posted 14 May 2005 - 12:38 PM

Naw, I raise KQo utg all the time. I fold A10o utg all the time. you have less ways of being out right dominated with KQo then you doi with A10o. You will also get more draws w/KQo. Plus when you hit TP, you will have to worry about less overcards counterfeiting you then you would w/A10o
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Posted 14 May 2005 - 09:37 PM

Raise at those levels, but call in games with better players. 50% hands raised is a little high, but the looseness makes up for it.

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Posted 14 May 2005 - 09:42 PM

DCWildcat said:

Raise at those levels, but call in games with better players. 50% hands raised is a little high, but the looseness makes up for it.
I agree.

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Posted 14 May 2005 - 09:47 PM

at those limits raise def. assuming you are a better skilled player you will be able to outplay your idiot oponents and should make better decisions, enabling you to raise with more marginal holdings in these types of games, probably restating other responses, just my .o2

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Posted 15 May 2005 - 06:55 PM

well, looks like iam a minority with this one, but i prefer calling.. You have to ask yourself, what is the point of this raise? With middle to low pockets from early position, ill raise.. in order to push people out. i dont want them in! With kqo EP, i dont really have to push people out. i'd rather let people in the pot. Sure, if i raised preflop and only the BB called.. and we both miss, i bet, he folds.. i win a small pot. But if i let people in, and I hit the flop good, well then anyone else who has a piece of the flop will give me action. If I raise preflop and get 3 bet, iam way behind and already wasted 1.5 BB.. .. if i get a few callers and miss the flop, iam out of position and already put in 1 BB.. I just thinks there's much more potential to make money by just calling from early position.. Ill speak for myself here, but when i limp w KQo EP, i win a helluva lot more bets and win bigger pots than if i raised the pot.. but hey, for those that like to raise from EP with this hand, RAISE AWAY!




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