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[lurbz]

PokerStars Game #21476853263: Tournament #114751160, $3.00+$0.30 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2008/10/25 6:54:54 ET
Table '114751160 25' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: Stefan7379 (13489 in chips)
Seat 2: Assay67 (43314 in chips)
Seat 3: GordonSumner (17200 in chips)
Seat 4: maile111 (17858 in chips)
Seat 5: Tamagotcha (17674 in chips)
Seat 6: BBsRJReich (53922 in chips)
Seat 7: hym1e (62512 in chips)
Seat 8: siremire (14585 in chips)
Seat 9: LANDES1chepa (82712 in chips)
Stefan7379: posts the ante 75
Assay67: posts the ante 75
GordonSumner: posts the ante 75
maile111: posts the ante 75
Tamagotcha: posts the ante 75
BBsRJReich: posts the ante 75
hym1e: posts the ante 75
siremire: posts the ante 75
LANDES1chepa: posts the ante 75
BBsRJReich: posts small blind 400
hym1e: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BBsRJReich [5s 9s]
siremire: calls 800
LANDES1chepa: calls 800
Stefan7379: folds
Assay67: calls 800
GordonSumner: folds
BBsRJReich said, "next time i play a MTT"
BBsRJReich said, "im gonna look at the clock"
BBsRJReich said, "and say hmm"
maile111: folds
Tamagotcha: folds
BBsRJReich: calls 400
hym1e: checks
*** FLOP *** [8s 5c 9c]
BBsRJReich: checks
BBsRJReich said, "if i actually do well, how late will i be up?"
hym1e: checks
siremire: checks
BBsRJReich said, "if the answer is 4 AM AND NOWHERE NEAR THE FINAL TABLE"
LANDES1chepa: checks
BBsRJReich said, "im not playing"
Assay67: bets 4000
BBsRJReich: raises 8800 to 12800
hym1e: folds
siremire: folds
LANDES1chepa: folds
Assay67: calls 8800
*** TURN *** [8s 5c 9c] [6s]
BBsRJReich: bets 40247 and is all-in
Assay67: calls 29639 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (10608) returned to BBsRJReich
*** RIVER *** [8s 5c 9c 6s] [6c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BBsRJReich: shows [5s 9s] (two pair, Nines and Sixes)
Assay67: shows [Kc Qc] (a flush, King high)
Assay67 collected 89553 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 89553 | Rake 0
Board [8s 5c 9c 6s 6c]
Seat 1: Stefan7379 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Assay67 showed [Kc Qc] and won (89553) with a flush, King high
Seat 3: GordonSumner folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: maile111 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Tamagotcha (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: BBsRJReich (small blind) showed [5s 9s] and lost with two pair, Nines and Sixes
Seat 7: hym1e (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: siremire folded on the Flop
Seat 9: LANDES1chepa folded on the Flop

Still in tourney, no time to convert, sorry, need to post to get this sight away from me.

[JasonDyke]

Why were you playing 5 - 9 anyways?

[lurbz]

Why were you playing 5 - 9 anyways?

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SB with > 65 BBs left?

[HollywoodAFD]

I dont think you can get a bad beat when you play 9 -5

[BeaverStyle]

C'mon guys, give him a break... I complete in the sb here all day and twice on sunday.

UL sir... Hilarious he called off so much w/ a K high flush draw... lol donkaments.

[SGFULTON83]

I answered this in the other section on strategy I think, but if not I would say this isn't a terrible play pre-flop. Not optimal, but not terrible either and the flop play is fine as well IMO. The turn is where I really take a step back when the four card straight hits the board, maybe check or fire a small bet IDK which would be best, but you have to think a draw got there in this situation and then the river would have really sent me packing on this hand when the flush came and board paired. I don't know if its great but I slow WAY down on the turn here.

[TheL0st1ne]

I answered this in the other section on strategy I think, but if not I would say this isn't a terrible play pre-flop. Not optimal, but not terrible either and the flop play is fine as well IMO. The turn is where I really take a step back when the four card straight hits the board, maybe check or fire a small bet IDK which would be best, but you have to think a draw got there in this situation and then the river would have really sent me packing on this hand when the flush came and board paired. I don't know if its great but I slow WAY down on the turn here.

The only draw that gets there is a 7.

[SGFULTON83]

The only draw that gets there is a 7.

Yeah, in an unraised pot pre-flop this is very probable. Isn't it?

[TheL0st1ne]

Yeah, in an unraised pot pre-flop this is very probable. Isn't it?

Probable, yes. Likely, no. Hero raised the flop hard. Hard to think put his opponent on a 7. Something like 87 or T7 i guess is possible, but more than likely you are still ahead here. You cant slow down everytime a gutshot gets there, or you'll ending up losing a lot of value and getting bluffed out a lot

[SGFULTON83]

Either way I just can't see going broke with 9's and 5's on that turn in an unraised pot pre-flop, just too many possibilities. Maybe I'm in the wrong but that is just my opinion which is why we all post here to get many different views of hands.

[lurbz]

Either way I just can't see going broke with 9's and 5's on that turn in an unraised pot pre-flop, just too many possibilities. Maybe I'm in the wrong but that is just my opinion which is why we all post here to get many different views of hands.

When you talk about possibilities - the only thing that really beats me here is if he flopped a set (highly unlikely since i flopped 2 pair and it was unraised PF) or if a 7 got there (highly unlikely that he called a c/rai with a straight draw). You also have to look at my possiblities:

any 9 (2 outs)
any 5 (2 outs)
any 7 (4 outs)
any spade (minus the 9, 5, and 2 on the board = 9 outs)

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17 outs on river plus im ahead with 2 pair.

so 34% to improve + probably way ahead anyway.

[TheL0st1ne]

Either way I just can't see going broke with 9's and 5's on that turn in an unraised pot pre-flop, just too many possibilities. Maybe I'm in the wrong but that is just my opinion which is why we all post here to get many different views of hands.

Ok, completely slow down anytime you are in a pot and any draw gets there.....even if the draw that gets there is a gutshot when you raised the previous street

See how much value you lose out on.