DKE_XP120 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 losing 15bb/100 over 300 hands today, gonna post a few:Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is CO with [Kh], [Kc]. 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, Hero calls.Flop: (21 SB) [6h], [6s], [Tc] (5 players)SB checks, UTG+1 checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP3 folds, Hero calls.Turn: (13.50 BB) [3c] (3 players)SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets, SB calls, Hero calls.River: (16.50 BB) [Jd] (3 players)SB bets, Hero calls, Button calls.Final Pot: 19.50 BBShould I have given up insead of calling down? Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 3-bet the flop Link to post Share on other sites
Vade 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 And then bet out on the turn Link to post Share on other sites
DKE_XP120 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Author Share Posted May 14, 2005 another one:Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP1 with [Kh], [Kd]. 3 folds.Flop: (7.50 SB) [Ts], [3h], [4d] (3 players)Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO calls.Turn: (8.25 BB) [2c] (3 players)Hero bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls.River: (14.25 BB) [7h] (3 players)Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.Final Pot: 14.25 BByeah, 1/6 today with kings Link to post Share on other sites
Vade 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 another one:Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is MP1 with [Kh], [Kd]. 3 folds.Flop: (7.50 SB) [Ts], [3h], [4d] (3 players)Hero bets, MP2 calls, CO calls.Turn: (8.25 BB) [2c] (3 players)Hero bets, Hero calls, MP2 calls.River: (14.25 BB) [7h] (3 players)Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks.Final Pot: 14.25 BByeah, 1/6 today with kings Looks perfect to me Link to post Share on other sites
DKE_XP120 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Author Share Posted May 14, 2005 Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is BB with [Ac], [4c]. UTG calls, 1 fold, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+2 calls.Flop: (12.50 SB) [8c], [2c], [Td] (6 players)Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets, MP3 calls, CO folds, Hero calls, UTG folds, UTG+2 calls.Turn: (8.25 BB) [Ks] (4 players)Hero checks, UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets, Hero folds, UTG+2 calls, MP2 calls.River: (14.25 BB) [Ah] (3 players)UTG+2 checks, MP2 bets, MP3 calls, UTG+2 folds.Final Pot: 16.25 BBWould it have been better to C/R the flop? If if so what should I have done on the turn? Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 C/r the flop. Call the turn. Call the river. Link to post Share on other sites
DKE_XP120 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Author Share Posted May 14, 2005 Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is SB with [8c], [8d]. 1 fold, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.Flop: (5 SB) [Ts], [9h], [7h] (5 players)Hero bets, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.Turn: (7.50 BB) [6d] (5 players)Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, Button calls.River: (10.50 BB) [Tc] (3 players)Hero bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 14.50 BBWas betting the flop stupid?Thanks for the help by the way Link to post Share on other sites
Emptyeye 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 Yeah, second kings hand looks good. I agree with 3-betting the flop on the first one and maybe (I'd say probably) leading the turn depending on whether he caps or not. If he caps AND raises the turn, you can slow down or maybe even fold (But probably not, as the pot will be pretty huge by that point), confident he's got aces.As an aside, I hate Kings the way most people hate Jacks. To me, jacks are actually not that hard to get away from--if an overcard hits the board and I'm being played back at, I can fold my jacks pretty easily. Kings, on the other hand, forces seem to conspire against me to make sure I don't win (Mostly it's my imagination, as Kings are amongst my top-ten winning hands according to PT with my small [3K or so hands] sample, but it always SEEMS like either an ace flops, or I lose to some weird two-pair, or run into pocket aces, or something).EDIT: Betting that flop is fine. Link to post Share on other sites
econ_tim 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 You want to bet the flop if you think at least a few people will call. Link to post Share on other sites
wrto4556 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 the 88 hand is good.Make seperate posts. Link to post Share on other sites
amarillotg 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 hand 1 - 3 bet the flop and lead the turn if the button doesn't cap it.hand 2 - looks fine.hand 3 - C/R the flop and hope to get everyone trapped for 2 bets. C/C the turn and river.hand 4 - looks fine. Link to post Share on other sites
NickTheKid 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is SB with [8c], [8d]. 1 fold, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.Flop: (5 SB) [Ts], [9h], [7h] (5 players)Hero bets, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.Turn: (7.50 BB) [6d] (5 players)Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, Button calls.River: (10.50 BB) [Tc] (3 players)Hero bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 14.50 BBWas betting the flop stupid?Thanks for the help by the wayRaise Pre-Flop... Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converterPreflop: Hero is SB with [8c], [8d]. 1 fold, Button calls, Hero completes, BB checks.Flop: (5 SB) [Ts], [9h], [7h] (5 players)Hero bets, Hero calls, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls.Turn: (7.50 BB) [6d] (5 players)Hero bets, BB calls, UTG+1 folds, MP2 folds, Button calls.River: (10.50 BB) [Tc] (3 players)Hero bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 14.50 BBWas betting the flop stupid?Thanks for the help by the way Raise Pre-Flop...bad Idea, real bad idea. You're OOP and there are a million bad flops that can happen and at least a three man field you'd have to bet into. DKE, I'd go for a cr on the turn, but betting out is fine too, nh Link to post Share on other sites
NickTheKid 0 Posted May 14, 2005 Share Posted May 14, 2005 I see what you mean, my mistake. Link to post Share on other sites
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