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#1 David_Nicoson

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Posted 16 October 2008 - 06:00 PM

Good for the game? Encourages umpires to pay attention to the actual rules? Discuss.
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Posted 16 October 2008 - 06:09 PM

If that is the correct strike zone, I've never seen a game called correctly in my life.Was it the same exact 'pitch tracker' on TBS as Fox?
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Posted 16 October 2008 - 06:14 PM

View PostPMJackson21, on Thursday, October 16th, 2008, 10:09 PM, said:

If that is the correct strike zone, I've never seen a game called correctly in my life.
I'm pretty confident that even MLB umpires would admit that their zones are wider than the plate.
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Posted 16 October 2008 - 07:33 PM

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Posted 17 October 2008 - 07:22 AM

View PostDavid_Nicoson, on Thursday, October 16th, 2008, 10:00 PM, said:

Good for the game? Encourages umpires to pay attention to the actual rules? Discuss.
I read something a few years ago that said each ump is given a DVD of the game (pitch after pitch, no breaks or if the ball is hit) showing the strike zone thing and wheat the ump called the pitch. Not sure if they still do that.

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Posted 17 October 2008 - 09:02 AM

I think it's really more for the fans. Remember when they installed those cameras into select stadiums? I think they were called the Q-tech or Quetech, I can't remember the exact name but those really affected the strike zone of an umpire.
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Posted 17 October 2008 - 06:29 PM

View PostDavid_Nicoson, on Thursday, October 16th, 2008, 7:00 PM, said:

Good for the game? Encourages umpires to pay attention to the actual rules? Discuss.
The TBS and Fox ones suck. Apparently you don't like baseball very much, but ESPN implemented "K-zone" ~5 years ago, and it appears much more accurate than the other two. It shows a bit of depth and where it crosses the plate, and includes the 2 inches that the umpires are allowed. FoxTrax doesn't show shit, it blows.

View PostSpeed Limit, on Friday, October 17th, 2008, 10:02 AM, said:

I think it's really more for the fans. Remember when they installed those cameras into select stadiums? I think they were called the Q-tech or Quetech, I can't remember the exact name but those really affected the strike zone of an umpire.
It's Questec. It should be in all stadiums now. The umpires get graded every game, and there's a certain percentage of "wrong" calls they're allowed to miss. Before the game, someone draws up the strike zone for each hitter. I'm not sure if ESPN uses the same system or not, but Fox and TBS only use a base strike zone that doesn't account for much of hitters sizes.
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Posted 17 October 2008 - 06:38 PM

I'd imagine these aren't terribly popular with the umpires union. Too bad for them they got their balls handed to them in a rosin bag a few years ago.

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Posted 17 October 2008 - 06:56 PM

View PostTheraflu, on Friday, October 17th, 2008, 10:29 PM, said:

The TBS and Fox ones suck. Apparently you don't like baseball very much, but ESPN implemented "K-zone" ~5 years ago, and it appears much more accurate than the other two. It shows a bit of depth and where it crosses the plate, and includes the 2 inches that the umpires are allowed.
What?
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Posted 18 October 2008 - 08:09 AM

View PostDavid_Nicoson, on Friday, October 17th, 2008, 7:56 PM, said:

What?
When the Questec strike zones are drawn up before the game for each player, they're the width of the plate and then from the bottom of the knees to letter-high or so. When determining the "accuracy" of each umpire, there is a 2-inch "buffer" zone for strikes for which they will not be penalized. I didn't mean to come off as a dick in my initial post, but I'm a dick so it's hard to avoid sometimes. I'd happily further explain anything that I didn't make clear.
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Posted 18 October 2008 - 02:32 PM

I have NEVER seen them explain how the tv strike zone is adjusted for every batter and, conceivably, every pitch. It's not like the strike zone is exactly the same always, and can therefore be exactly defined in space. It changes based on the height and stance of each batter. Can somebody explain how they do that and how exact they can be? They act like there's a real, literal amount of cubic space which is defined as the strike zone (this is true), but they never discuss the fact that its height is always changing.
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