Small Pair, Big Pre-flop Raise

[Quacktastic 106]

Live 1/2 game, no real reads.I look at 33 in the SB and there are 5 limpers. I throw in the extra buck to set mine.BB (about 150 behind before the raise) bumps it to 30. There are 3 callers in front of me.Stacks of the remaining 3 are about 600, 200, and 350 (I have about 400).Do I have the implied odds to try for a set or is it better to toss this into the muck?

[dreamcrusher28 0]

Right or wrong, I call there.

[mtdesmoines 2]

Live 1/2 game, no real reads.I look at 33 in the SB and there are 5 limpers. I throw in the extra buck to set mine.BB (about 150 behind before the raise) bumps it to 30. There are 3 callers in front of me.Stacks of the remaining 3 are about 600, 200, and 350 (I have about 400).Do I have the implied odds to try for a set or is it better to toss this into the muck?

u will lose money in this pot over time imho.the price is high, the odds are long, and it's multi-way, meaning no one is folding because the pot is huge so draws will tend to mature.

[SGFULTON83 0]

Fold or Shove, and only shove if you like coin flips being your best case senario. I would never flat call in this situation.

[AimHigher 0]

Fold or Shove, and only shove if you like coin flips being your best case senario. I would never flat call in this situation.

What if the BB had made it $20, would you flat then?

[TrueAce13 18]

What if the BB had made it $20, would you flat then?

I think if it is 20, we definitely need to flat. I agree though, the odds are way too high to justify a flat call here. If you hit after folding, just be mad at yourself

[BaseJester 1]

First, I have to congratulate you on your excellent game selection. UTG's limp and call against a short stack is especially donktastic.Reasons to call:

• You arguably have the best position at the table. You check, the PFR pushes, and everybody else acts without a clue about your hand strength.
• The way they're playing this hand, it's fairly likely that one of the calling villains will invest further money with a one-pair hand.

Reasons to fold:

• It's an absurbly large fraction of the PFR's stack. We can call and stack him everytime we make a set and still lose a lot of money over the long term.
• Set-over-set is a big factor with our teeny-weeny pair and this action.

I think the reasons to fold are more compelling.