Top + Oesd On Turn

[antistuff 0]

standard?Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Ring gameBlinds: $0.25/$0.506 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $50UTG+1: $100.45CO: $53.25Hero: $50.20SB: $50BB: $63Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T 9 Q J UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Hero raises to $2.75, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls.Flop: J 6 3 ($11.25, 4 players)BB checks, UTG+1 checks, CO checks, Hero checks.Turn: T ($11.25, 4 players)BB checks, UTG+1 bets $11.25, CO calls, Hero raises all-in $47.45

[Frez 0]

Hmmm - I like it better if you have hearts of course - or spades for that matter. Are these guys apt to give up to pressure? UTG+1 can call 36 in 81 now, and if he calls, CO must too.I think maybe I flat call the turn - so many of your outs are tainted, and your OESD is not to the nuts.

[simo_8ball 1]

I probably c/bet. I don't think you get c/r too often.Turn shove is fine imo.

[antistuff 0]

I probably c/bet. I don't think you get c/r too often.Turn shove is fine imo.

what makes you like c-betting that flop? is it because of only one high card and how the cards are spread out so it doesn't hit too many straights?

[jjgoldy5 0]

what makes you like c-betting that flop? is it because of only one high card and how the cards are spread out so it doesn't hit too many straights?

Flop texture.I'd c-bet heads up, but I don't like a c-bet 4-way... you can catch a ton of cards on the turn that help you, and in position, you can get paid. Whereas, if you get check raised you have to dump the hand.Get it in on the turn!

[Dratj 0]

I don't like the preflop raise, better if it's double suited.I thinking checking the flop is fine given there are four players.I prob just call the turn. A lot of your outs are no good if either flush hits and some of your straight outs aren't the nuts. If you get called, I imagine you'd be behind. Which is what i think happened.

[simo_8ball 1]

I don't like the preflop raise, better if it's double suited.

Not raising this preflop would be a big mistake imo.

I prob just call the turn. A lot of your outs are no good if either flush hits and some of your straight outs aren't the nuts.

The problem is, if you call you will have ~$36 left with a pot of ~$45, and you have absolutely no idea what you want to hit. On the turn you probably have the best hand, and you have outs if you actually are behind.

[antistuff 0]

I don't like the preflop raise, better if it's double suited.I thinking checking the flop is fine given there are four players.I prob just call the turn. A lot of your outs are no good if either flush hits and some of your straight outs aren't the nuts. If you get called, I imagine you'd be behind. Which is what i think happened.

if you don't raise this preflop then what do you raise preflop? this is in like the top 5% of hands you can get dealt

The problem is, if you call you will have ~$36 left with a pot of ~$45, and you have absolutely no idea what you want to hit. On the turn you probably have the best hand, and you have outs if you actually are behind.

that was about my thinking. i can't call here becouse its so easy to push me around on the river, so i have to put in all the money in what is probably on average a 50/50 situation. this time i ended up being way ahead as the guy had a single king high flush draw and nothing else.

[Dratj 0]

if you don't raise this preflop then what do you raise preflop? this is in like the top 5% of hands you can get dealt that was about my thinking. i can't call here becouse its so easy to push me around on the river, so i have to put in all the money in what is probably on average a 50/50 situation. this time i ended up being way ahead as the guy had a single king high flush draw and nothing else.

I raise aces or kings, and double suited coordinated cards. I tend to limp a lot and just play the flop.yah, you are right, the range is probably too narrow but works for me in tourneys. wow, villian called you with just the K high flush draw? pretty bad call. guess he hit, eh?

[antistuff 0]

I raise aces or kings, and double suited coordinated cards. I tend to limp a lot and just play the flop.yah, you are right, the range is probably too narrow but works for me in tourneys. wow, villian called you with just the K high flush draw? pretty bad call. guess he hit, eh?

i don't know a thing about tourneys, but in cash plo if you raised every single button or co you played you would not be far off.

[fitzinabox 0]

i like the play

[ship 0]

sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo standardand yeah, you're an uber nit if you dont raise this PF... just cause it's not DS anyways, besides, how often are you jamming the J high flush if you make it? i hope not frequently, esp not in multiway potsgood flop check sir. good turn shoveIPITS AINEC imo