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#1 antistuff

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 05:36 AM

inspired by the cardcore and rdog threads, i am interested in doing the same thing. i figure rather than clog general with another thread im going to make a thread where everybody is invited to come and make offers and haggle and all that.



if you decide to do this yourself understand that you are dealing with anonymous strangers who have no accountability to you and even if you are very very careful there is still a chance you will end up getting burned. so buyer beware.


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here is mine -

i would like to stake somebody who has had success at micro limit games to play a little higher. the exact amounts and details would depend on the game and the site.

i require -
- you can show me graphs or PT stats that you've been successful.
- you have been posting at this forum for a while now.
- you post in strat or the challenge threads.

just so you know beforehand i am going to be fussy, don't take it personally.

pm me or reply here. provide proof of your past successes. having a plan of what you want and how you intend to operate is also a good idea.
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 05:45 AM

Team FCP is about to grow.

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#3 babylondonks

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 05:56 AM

I nominate Sickboy

I'd nominate myself but I don't have nearly a large enough sample to prove enough (3.31 BB/100 at .1/.2 SHLHE over 2k hands icon_dance.gif )

I think Tuckermitchell ought to be somebody considering if he throws his name in here, just from reading the LHE challenge thread

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 01:54 PM

I'm really happy to see everyone helping out starting players like this. It's really cool. Wish I was established enough to even consider taking advantage, but still very glad nonetheless. Good luck to all involved, really cool thing for FCP.

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 02:09 PM

Call me the forum pessimist, but I highly reccomend everyone think twice before staking people. Most people that need a stake need one for a reason...yes there are exceptions to every rule, but unless you personally know the person the risk/reward is more than likely not there. That isn't to say there aren't exceptions and I know that several people have done really well after starting on a stake from someone else, but you don't always hear about the times it goes bad, which happens probably just as often if not more. I certainly don't reccomend arbitrarily having a bunch of people apply and just pick one. Yes, I know there will be a lot more that goes into it than that...I am just saying everyone should be cautious about the entire process, especially when it comes to larger sums of money and not just a few 4.40's.

Finally, I'm not trying to be a douche by saying this but will come off as one I guess (imagine that!) but most people that are staking others aren't doing it to give back to the community, etc etc. They are doing it for a way to make money while doing very little if any actual work. And hey, there's nothing at all wrong with that. But it isn't "cool" or "helping out" as I've heard already in this thread...and anyone who thinks it is definitely shouldn't be doing any staking, because I doubt you know what goes into it.
QUOTE (dscoot @ Friday, April 10th, 2009, 3:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
im still not sold that many of these people that get these big online scores are winners when it comes to the live game, which, by the way, is real poker.


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Posted 01 October 2008 - 02:40 PM

I've posted in the other thread, so apolgies for the repeats, but:

I started on here about 10months ago, mostly luking and following DN's progress. Since June I started taking it more seriously, logging hands on PT, joined PVT and from then on have followed strat/challenge threads - i've since done a CR membership + Deuces, always looking to improve, rail/be railed.

It's on my blog, but basically i've turned around from being a losing player to a winning player, moved upto 25nl and have done well there - i've downswonged this month, but have about broke even (before Rakeback).

I dont' have graphs for this month on me, pre downswong, as i'm away from home for a few more days, can do a full PT graph no worries.

Sept @ 25nl



Aug @ 10nl + move to 25nl




I'm looking to move to Headsup - Preferrable getting trained by Tremomey, his results speak for themselves, probably got the highest winrate of FCP? With proven successful students (I think Brent and Merby are at aroung 14bb/100 or thereabouts so far @50nl)

I've got the BR for coaching, but am looking to get started asap and still need to build a BR for playing - I wouldn't be interested in training/HU if I wasn't positive i'd be making mobnies off the back of it icon_biggrin.gif - im planning to leach Tre of every bit of HU I can, whilst working through DC HU content. I'm also hoping to rail a few HU ppl and learn though discussion, improve my overall game. From there, moving upwards in stake eventually, when I can prove myself competant, possibly getting more coaching with the change in stake

No issues at all with providing HH's/blog/pretty much any info you're after, i'd like to think i'm a pretty solid bet, i've no intentions of doin this half-arsed

GL horses, and nice post cubs (no sw)

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 02:51 PM

QUOTE (chgocubs99 @ Wednesday, October 1st, 2008, 2:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Call me the forum pessimist, but I highly reccomend everyone think twice before staking people. Most people that need a stake need one for a reason...yes there are exceptions to every rule, but unless you personally know the person the risk/reward is more than likely not there. That isn't to say there aren't exceptions and I know that several people have done really well after starting on a stake from someone else, but you don't always hear about the times it goes bad, which happens probably just as often if not more. I certainly don't reccomend arbitrarily having a bunch of people apply and just pick one. Yes, I know there will be a lot more that goes into it than that...I am just saying everyone should be cautious about the entire process, especially when it comes to larger sums of money and not just a few 4.40's.

Finally, I'm not trying to be a douche by saying this but will come off as one I guess (imagine that!) but most people that are staking others aren't doing it to give back to the community, etc etc. They are doing it for a way to make money while doing very little if any actual work. And hey, there's nothing at all wrong with that. But it isn't "cool" or "helping out" as I've heard already in this thread...and anyone who thinks it is definitely shouldn't be doing any staking, because I doubt you know what goes into it.


Yeah, I've had PM correspondence with members, containing a similar opinion, but in more of a "what idiots" type capacity.

That said, I think LHE is a way better way to go at this, because the games are softer and there are probably a lot of players with a lot room to improve on mediocre results.

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 03:15 PM

QUOTE (chgocubs99 @ Wednesday, October 1st, 2008, 3:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Call me the forum pessimist, but I highly reccomend everyone think twice before staking people. Most people that need a stake need one for a reason...yes there are exceptions to every rule, but unless you personally know the person the risk/reward is more than likely not there. That isn't to say there aren't exceptions and I know that several people have done really well after starting on a stake from someone else, but you don't always hear about the times it goes bad, which happens probably just as often if not more. I certainly don't reccomend arbitrarily having a bunch of people apply and just pick one. Yes, I know there will be a lot more that goes into it than that...I am just saying everyone should be cautious about the entire process, especially when it comes to larger sums of money and not just a few 4.40's.

Finally, I'm not trying to be a douche by saying this but will come off as one I guess (imagine that!) but most people that are staking others aren't doing it to give back to the community, etc etc. They are doing it for a way to make money while doing very little if any actual work. And hey, there's nothing at all wrong with that. But it isn't "cool" or "helping out" as I've heard already in this thread...and anyone who thinks it is definitely shouldn't be doing any staking, because I doubt you know what goes into it.


all i can say is that i really hope this is not in anyway being directed towards our group.

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 03:26 PM

QUOTE (chgocubs99 @ Wednesday, October 1st, 2008, 3:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Call me the forum pessimist, but I highly reccomend everyone think twice before staking people. Most people that need a stake need one for a reason...yes there are exceptions to every rule, but unless you personally know the person the risk/reward is more than likely not there. That isn't to say there aren't exceptions and I know that several people have done really well after starting on a stake from someone else, but you don't always hear about the times it goes bad, which happens probably just as often if not more. I certainly don't reccomend arbitrarily having a bunch of people apply and just pick one. Yes, I know there will be a lot more that goes into it than that...I am just saying everyone should be cautious about the entire process, especially when it comes to larger sums of money and not just a few 4.40's.

Finally, I'm not trying to be a douche by saying this but will come off as one I guess (imagine that!) but most people that are staking others aren't doing it to give back to the community, etc etc. They are doing it for a way to make money while doing very little if any actual work. And hey, there's nothing at all wrong with that. But it isn't "cool" or "helping out" as I've heard already in this thread...and anyone who thinks it is definitely shouldn't be doing any staking, because I doubt you know what goes into it.

I like you but there is a ton in this post I really disagree with. I will leave it at that.

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 03:48 PM

QUOTE (babylondonks @ Wednesday, October 1st, 2008, 5:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I nominate Sickboy


Like anybody's gonna choose me...

Edit: I would like the stake though. Antistuff you know my story and what im about. Good luck to you and whoever you choose.

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 03:51 PM

QUOTE (chgocubs99 @ Wednesday, October 1st, 2008, 3:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Call me the forum pessimist, but I highly reccomend everyone think twice before staking people. Most people that need a stake need one for a reason...yes there are exceptions to every rule, but unless you personally know the person the risk/reward is more than likely not there. That isn't to say there aren't exceptions and I know that several people have done really well after starting on a stake from someone else, but you don't always hear about the times it goes bad, which happens probably just as often if not more. I certainly don't reccomend arbitrarily having a bunch of people apply and just pick one. Yes, I know there will be a lot more that goes into it than that...I am just saying everyone should be cautious about the entire process, especially when it comes to larger sums of money and not just a few 4.40's.

Finally, I'm not trying to be a douche by saying this but will come off as one I guess (imagine that!) but most people that are staking others aren't doing it to give back to the community, etc etc. They are doing it for a way to make money while doing very little if any actual work. And hey, there's nothing at all wrong with that. But it isn't "cool" or "helping out" as I've heard already in this thread...and anyone who thinks it is definitely shouldn't be doing any staking, because I doubt you know what goes into it.


stake me please... i kid


very nice thing to do OP good luck to all you crazy stakers.
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 03:53 PM

i dont think this is a good idea, but maybe i'm just a nit.

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE (Jordan @ Wednesday, October 1st, 2008, 4:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i dont think this is a good idea, but maybe i'm just a nit.

Yeah, staking rarely turns a profit wink.gif

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 04:05 PM

QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Wednesday, October 1st, 2008, 5:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, staking rarely turns a profit wink.gif


lol

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 04:11 PM

I'd like to roll somebody for $2NL and I expect a graph like this:



(Credit to Snamuh for the graph)

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 04:37 PM

QUOTE (babylondonks @ Wednesday, October 1st, 2008, 5:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd like to roll somebody for $2NL and I expect a graph like this:



(credit to bbv graphs thread)


imo

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 05:56 PM

I nominate freak2304. Great player.

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Posted 01 October 2008 - 07:26 PM

QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Wednesday, October 1st, 2008, 5:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, I've had PM correspondence with members, containing a similar opinion, but in more of a "what idiots" type capacity.

That said, I think LHE is a way better way to go at this, because the games are softer and there are probably a lot of players with a lot room to improve on mediocre results.


OK


QUOTE (pocktdeuces @ Wednesday, October 1st, 2008, 6:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
all i can say is that i really hope this is not in anyway being directed towards our group.




Not even in the slightest...actually, I'm more concerned that people will be "Woah, look at them! Staking is easy!"


QUOTE (RDog @ Wednesday, October 1st, 2008, 6:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I like you but there is a ton in this post I really disagree with. I will leave it at that.


Seriously, please elaborate. We obviously won't agree on everything about everything so if I'm wrong, please let me know. I don't have a ton of good qualities but one of them is being able to admit when I'm wrong.


QUOTE (Jordan @ Wednesday, October 1st, 2008, 6:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i dont think this is a good idea, but maybe i'm just a nit.



I know you're one of the exceptions too.

QUOTE (Acid_Knight @ Wednesday, October 1st, 2008, 7:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, staking rarely turns a profit wink.gif



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QUOTE (dscoot @ Friday, April 10th, 2009, 3:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
im still not sold that many of these people that get these big online scores are winners when it comes to the live game, which, by the way, is real poker.


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Posted 01 October 2008 - 07:35 PM

yes. this is probably not the greatest way to invest money.

it seemed like a fun and nice thing to do.

in fact the pm that caught my attention the most was from somebody who didn't even want a stake, they just wanted somebody to help them with their game.
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Posted 01 October 2008 - 07:40 PM

FWIW a good stake is going to easily provide a better ROI than the financial markets (even in a good year).
Snamuh raises to $76.75, and is all in
BigKamp: yyou lose
BigKamp has 15 seconds left to act
BigKamp calls $24.50, and is all in
Seat 1: BigKamp (small blind) mucked [Ad Ac] - a full house, Aces full of Kings
Seat 2: Snamuh (big blind) showed [Kd Kh] and won ($102.50) with four of a kind, Kings
Snamuh: you lose




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