(maybe Sorta Official?) Stake Thread

[antistuff 0]

inspired by the cardcore and rdog threads, i am interested in doing the same thing. i figure rather than clog general with another thread im going to make a thread where everybody is invited to come and make offers and haggle and all that.if you decide to do this yourself understand that you are dealing with anonymous strangers who have no accountability to you and even if you are very very careful there is still a chance you will end up getting burned. so buyer beware.---------------------------------here is mine -i would like to stake somebody who has had success at micro limit games to play a little higher. the exact amounts and details would depend on the game and the site. i require - - you can show me graphs or PT stats that you've been successful. - you have been posting at this forum for a while now. - you post in strat or the challenge threads.just so you know beforehand i am going to be fussy, don't take it personally. pm me or reply here. provide proof of your past successes. having a plan of what you want and how you intend to operate is also a good idea.

[aucu 3]

Team FCP is about to grow.Good luck to all who entre

[babylondonks 5]

I nominate SickboyI'd nominate myself but I don't have nearly a large enough sample to prove enough (3.31 BB/100 at .1/.2 SHLHE over 2k hands )I think Tuckermitchell ought to be somebody considering if he throws his name in here, just from reading the LHE challenge thread

[FizzbinPro 0]

I'm really happy to see everyone helping out starting players like this. It's really cool. Wish I was established enough to even consider taking advantage, but still very glad nonetheless. Good luck to all involved, really cool thing for FCP.

[chgocubs99 0]

Call me the forum pessimist, but I highly reccomend everyone think twice before staking people. Most people that need a stake need one for a reason...yes there are exceptions to every rule, but unless you personally know the person the risk/reward is more than likely not there. That isn't to say there aren't exceptions and I know that several people have done really well after starting on a stake from someone else, but you don't always hear about the times it goes bad, which happens probably just as often if not more. I certainly don't reccomend arbitrarily having a bunch of people apply and just pick one. Yes, I know there will be a lot more that goes into it than that...I am just saying everyone should be cautious about the entire process, especially when it comes to larger sums of money and not just a few 4.40's.Finally, I'm not trying to be a douche by saying this but will come off as one I guess (imagine that!) but most people that are staking others aren't doing it to give back to the community, etc etc. They are doing it for a way to make money while doing very little if any actual work. And hey, there's nothing at all wrong with that. But it isn't "cool" or "helping out" as I've heard already in this thread...and anyone who thinks it is definitely shouldn't be doing any staking, because I doubt you know what goes into it.

[Giggidy 0]

I've posted in the other thread, so apolgies for the repeats, but:I started on here about 10months ago, mostly luking and following DN's progress. Since June I started taking it more seriously, logging hands on PT, joined PVT and from then on have followed strat/challenge threads - i've since done a CR membership + Deuces, always looking to improve, rail/be railed.It's on my blog, but basically i've turned around from being a losing player to a winning player, moved upto 25nl and have done well there - i've downswonged this month, but have about broke even (before Rakeback).I dont' have graphs for this month on me, pre downswong, as i'm away from home for a few more days, can do a full PT graph no worries.Sept @ 25nl Aug @ 10nl + move to 25nlI'm looking to move to Headsup - Preferrable getting trained by Tremomey, his results speak for themselves, probably got the highest winrate of FCP? With proven successful students (I think Brent and Merby are at aroung 14bb/100 or thereabouts so far @50nl)I've got the BR for coaching, but am looking to get started asap and still need to build a BR for playing - I wouldn't be interested in training/HU if I wasn't positive i'd be making mobnies off the back of it - im planning to leach Tre of every bit of HU I can, whilst working through DC HU content. I'm also hoping to rail a few HU ppl and learn though discussion, improve my overall game. From there, moving upwards in stake eventually, when I can prove myself competant, possibly getting more coaching with the change in stakeNo issues at all with providing HH's/blog/pretty much any info you're after, i'd like to think i'm a pretty solid bet, i've no intentions of doin this half-arsedGL horses, and nice post cubs (no sw)

[Dirtydutch 9]

Call me the forum pessimist, but I highly reccomend everyone think twice before staking people. Most people that need a stake need one for a reason...yes there are exceptions to every rule, but unless you personally know the person the risk/reward is more than likely not there. That isn't to say there aren't exceptions and I know that several people have done really well after starting on a stake from someone else, but you don't always hear about the times it goes bad, which happens probably just as often if not more. I certainly don't reccomend arbitrarily having a bunch of people apply and just pick one. Yes, I know there will be a lot more that goes into it than that...I am just saying everyone should be cautious about the entire process, especially when it comes to larger sums of money and not just a few 4.40's.Finally, I'm not trying to be a douche by saying this but will come off as one I guess (imagine that!) but most people that are staking others aren't doing it to give back to the community, etc etc. They are doing it for a way to make money while doing very little if any actual work. And hey, there's nothing at all wrong with that. But it isn't "cool" or "helping out" as I've heard already in this thread...and anyone who thinks it is definitely shouldn't be doing any staking, because I doubt you know what goes into it.

Yeah, I've had PM correspondence with members, containing a similar opinion, but in more of a "what idiots" type capacity. That said, I think LHE is a way better way to go at this, because the games are softer and there are probably a lot of players with a lot room to improve on mediocre results.

[pocktdeuces 0]

Call me the forum pessimist, but I highly reccomend everyone think twice before staking people. Most people that need a stake need one for a reason...yes there are exceptions to every rule, but unless you personally know the person the risk/reward is more than likely not there. That isn't to say there aren't exceptions and I know that several people have done really well after starting on a stake from someone else, but you don't always hear about the times it goes bad, which happens probably just as often if not more. I certainly don't reccomend arbitrarily having a bunch of people apply and just pick one. Yes, I know there will be a lot more that goes into it than that...I am just saying everyone should be cautious about the entire process, especially when it comes to larger sums of money and not just a few 4.40's.Finally, I'm not trying to be a douche by saying this but will come off as one I guess (imagine that!) but most people that are staking others aren't doing it to give back to the community, etc etc. They are doing it for a way to make money while doing very little if any actual work. And hey, there's nothing at all wrong with that. But it isn't "cool" or "helping out" as I've heard already in this thread...and anyone who thinks it is definitely shouldn't be doing any staking, because I doubt you know what goes into it.

all i can say is that i really hope this is not in anyway being directed towards our group.

[RDog 0]

Call me the forum pessimist, but I highly reccomend everyone think twice before staking people. Most people that need a stake need one for a reason...yes there are exceptions to every rule, but unless you personally know the person the risk/reward is more than likely not there. That isn't to say there aren't exceptions and I know that several people have done really well after starting on a stake from someone else, but you don't always hear about the times it goes bad, which happens probably just as often if not more. I certainly don't reccomend arbitrarily having a bunch of people apply and just pick one. Yes, I know there will be a lot more that goes into it than that...I am just saying everyone should be cautious about the entire process, especially when it comes to larger sums of money and not just a few 4.40's.Finally, I'm not trying to be a douche by saying this but will come off as one I guess (imagine that!) but most people that are staking others aren't doing it to give back to the community, etc etc. They are doing it for a way to make money while doing very little if any actual work. And hey, there's nothing at all wrong with that. But it isn't "cool" or "helping out" as I've heard already in this thread...and anyone who thinks it is definitely shouldn't be doing any staking, because I doubt you know what goes into it.

I like you but there is a ton in this post I really disagree with. I will leave it at that.

[Sick Boy 0]

I nominate Sickboy

Like anybody's gonna choose me...Edit: I would like the stake though. Antistuff you know my story and what im about. Good luck to you and whoever you choose.

[kobe2odom8 14]

Call me the forum pessimist, but I highly reccomend everyone think twice before staking people. Most people that need a stake need one for a reason...yes there are exceptions to every rule, but unless you personally know the person the risk/reward is more than likely not there. That isn't to say there aren't exceptions and I know that several people have done really well after starting on a stake from someone else, but you don't always hear about the times it goes bad, which happens probably just as often if not more. I certainly don't reccomend arbitrarily having a bunch of people apply and just pick one. Yes, I know there will be a lot more that goes into it than that...I am just saying everyone should be cautious about the entire process, especially when it comes to larger sums of money and not just a few 4.40's.Finally, I'm not trying to be a douche by saying this but will come off as one I guess (imagine that!) but most people that are staking others aren't doing it to give back to the community, etc etc. They are doing it for a way to make money while doing very little if any actual work. And hey, there's nothing at all wrong with that. But it isn't "cool" or "helping out" as I've heard already in this thread...and anyone who thinks it is definitely shouldn't be doing any staking, because I doubt you know what goes into it.

stake me please... i kidvery nice thing to do OP good luck to all you crazy stakers.

[Jordan 1]

i dont think this is a good idea, but maybe i'm just a nit.

[Acid_Knight 2]

i dont think this is a good idea, but maybe i'm just a nit.

Yeah, staking rarely turns a profit

[Jordan 1]

Yeah, staking rarely turns a profit

lol

[babylondonks 5]

I'd like to roll somebody for $2NL and I expect a graph like this:(Credit to Snamuh for the graph)

[pocktdeuces 0]

I'd like to roll somebody for $2NL and I expect a graph like this:(credit to bbv graphs thread)

imo

[vonteego3 0]

I nominate freak2304. Great player.

[chgocubs99 0]

Yeah, I've had PM correspondence with members, containing a similar opinion, but in more of a "what idiots" type capacity. That said, I think LHE is a way better way to go at this, because the games are softer and there are probably a lot of players with a lot room to improve on mediocre results.

OK

all i can say is that i really hope this is not in anyway being directed towards our group.

Not even in the slightest...actually, I'm more concerned that people will be "Woah, look at them! Staking is easy!"

I like you but there is a ton in this post I really disagree with. I will leave it at that.

Seriously, please elaborate. We obviously won't agree on everything about everything so if I'm wrong, please let me know. I don't have a ton of good qualities but one of them is being able to admit when I'm wrong.

i dont think this is a good idea, but maybe i'm just a nit.

I know you're one of the exceptions too.

Yeah, staking rarely turns a profit

You're still my hero

[antistuff 0]

yes. this is probably not the greatest way to invest money.it seemed like a fun and nice thing to do. in fact the pm that caught my attention the most was from somebody who didn't even want a stake, they just wanted somebody to help them with their game.

[Snamuh 0]

FWIW a good stake is going to easily provide a better ROI than the financial markets (even in a good year).

[chgocubs99 0]

FWIW a good stake is going to easily provide a better ROI than the financial markets (even in a good year).

My point is that you don't see a "long term staking" post on forums. Most of that stuff is done in private...and the people that know what they are doing may do it publicly, but I still think it sets a bad precedent.

[RDog 0]

Not even in the slightest...actually, I'm more concerned that people will be "Woah, look at them! Staking is easy!"Seriously, please elaborate. We obviously won't agree on everything about everything so if I'm wrong, please let me know. I don't have a ton of good qualities but one of them is being able to admit when I'm wrong.

Both of us kind of felt that you were talking about us since we were 1 of 2 big staking processes that took place recently. Mainly my issue was if it related to us. We surely took trustworthiness as a huge part of the equation when picking our people. And we surely aren't just giving people money and doing nothing to help them earn us money. The 3 of us just basically took on a 2nd job. Are we looking to make money? Absolutely. But at the same time there is a fulfillment in watching someone grow as a poker player as well and I don't think any of us would be doing it if it was just about the money. I can't speak for anyone else since our program is much more than staking. But since you are saying you weren't talking about us, none of that really matters.Edit: I would even say that the staking is a much smaller part of what we are doing than the other stuff.

[king1305 0]

there is a fulfillment in watching someone grow as a poker player

hi.

[RDog 0]

hi.

LMAO

[chgocubs99 0]

Both of us kind of felt that you were talking about us since we were 1 of 2 big staking processes that took place recently. Mainly my issue was if it related to us. We surely took trustworthiness as a huge part of the equation when picking our people. And we surely aren't just giving people money and doing nothing to help them earn us money. The 3 of us just basically took on a 2nd job. Are we looking to make money? Absolutely. But at the same time there is a fulfillment in watching someone grow as a poker player as well and I don't think any of us would be doing it if it was just about the money. I can't speak for anyone else since our program is much more than staking. But since you are saying you weren't talking about us, none of that really matters.Edit: I would even say that the staking is a much smaller part of what we are doing than the other stuff.

It sort of matters...but you're right, not really. What you, jesse, casey, and seth are doing are the examples of people that are thinking their decisions through to the fullest. I dont' want people to think that you all are just like "HEY, LET'S STAKE SOMEONE!" I know you all know what you are doing, 100% I know that, believe me.And I don't pretend to know what else your program is all about, and I'm sure that involves more than just money. I'm not going to ask you to elaborate because it's none of my business. I'll just say that, like in sports, it probably isn't just about the money. I'm sure you really want all your students to succeed, I'm sure you take a vested interest in them, I don't doubt any of that. I just don't think you would be doing it, just like an athlete would be doing it, without the money. So just like I'd say to an athlete...you can say it isn't about the money, and deep down, you may even believe it isn't......but it is. First and foremost. Everything else comes second, third, fourth, etc. If this is inaccurate then let me know and I will retract.