DonkSlayer 1 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 Ran out of allowed images so the quality of the conversions drops as this post gets long. 1. Villain has been at table two orbits. 2 hands ago we played a pot, he opened from EP for 3.5x, I called from CO, two to the flop, he lead for just over 1/2 pot on the flop and I raised him 3x his bet, he folded. That's about it. Then this:Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flop | saw showdownButton ($86.80)BB ($124)UTG ($100)MP1 ($23.50)Hero (MP2) ($177.20)CO ($12.50)Preflop: Hero is MP2 with , 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, 3 folds, UTG calls $2.50Flop: ($7.50) , , (2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $5.50, UTG raises to $19, Hero?2. I've seen nothing out of line from the villains but they've been around for quite awhile, so my image with them has to be leaning LAG. This happened a bit after the first hand I posted and I've played about 3 pots over 2 orbits with no winners since.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flop | saw showdownMP3 ($76.50)CO ($64.05)Button ($120)SB ($130.10)BB ($20)UTG ($96)UTG+1 ($20.50)Hero (MP1) ($153.10)MP2 ($10.40)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with , 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, MP3 calls $3.50, CO calls $3.50, 3 foldsFlop: ($12) , , (3 players)Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checksTurn: ($12) (3 players)Hero checks, MP3 checks, CO checksRiver: ($12) (3 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets $4, 1 fold, Hero folds.I really didn't feel that the villains would bet the flop unless they had hit it hard, although I don't think I've c/r once at this table. I was worried that if I bet the flop and got raised, that would be twice in about 2 orbits and I would have lost my image at this juicy, relatively loose/passive table. Bet turn though? 3. Been here 3 orbits, got in a raise each orbit with no calls/challenges, although villain in this hand just got here. Don't play much 6-max, what's the normal procedure for my holdings vs unk with this action?Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flop | saw showdownHero (MP) ($50)Button ($50)SB ($54.15)BB ($125.10)UTG ($24.35)Preflop: Hero is MP with 1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, SB raises to $6.50, 2 folds, Hero?4. Same villain as hand 2, bout 3 orbits later. You're either going to love this or hate it. Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comsaw flop | saw showdownSB ($99)BB ($122.30)UTG ($143)UTG+1 ($20)MP1 ($96)MP2 ($32.85)Hero (CO) ($150.60)Button ($17.95)Preflop: Hero is CO with AhJh4 folds, Hero raises to $4, 2 folds, BB calls $3Flop: ($8.50) As Qh 8s (2 players)BB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($8.50) 7d (2 players)BB bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.50River: ($25.50) Ac (2 players)BB bets $25.50, Hero calls $25.50Total pot: $76.50 | Rake: $3 Link to post Share on other sites
NonZeroPossibility 0 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 1. Should be easy fold to c/r without some sick read2. Check flop is OK, but please please please pot the turn.3. Just cuz I hate AJ so much, I probably fold to the raise pf.4. Min-raise river?? Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 1) I fold these flops to this action pretty often. It might be exploitable if you never come back over the top, but you only have to do it occasionally to be able to regularly fold when you get check raised with TPGK.2) I sort of hate not betting the flop. Don't worry about getting check/raised, cross that bridge once you get there. Honestly, if you don't think anyone is betting this flop unless they hit it hard, then bet. They won't raise you unless they hit it hard either. It's really bad to start intending to c/c OOP with a naked NFD hoping the over is good too.Pot the turn as played, no one wants the pot and you have a bajillion outs.3) Fold to the raise, AJ doesn't play well in threebet pots, even IP.4) After you check the flop, you HAVE to play the hand the way you did. You waved the reg flag in front of him, so all you can do is let him fall into the pot and hope he doesn't have eights full or something gay. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 I would fold the first one, bet flop on the second, fold PF to the 3rd, and flat the 4th. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 1. Fold. You're beating only air and there is air there like 10% of the time. 2. You miss an incredible amount of value by not betting this flop. Why play the hand if you aren't pressuring this board? 3. Fold to the raise4. Depends on villain. Occasionally, IPITS. Link to post Share on other sites
david_keena 0 Posted October 1, 2008 Share Posted October 1, 2008 1. i fold to the C/R2. i bet $10-12 on the Turn then C/F to a bricked river.3. i think i would fold to the 3 bet here since player is UNK4. i think you shoulda c bet flop but as played i don't think we should try any raising on the river just call. Link to post Share on other sites
ship 0 Posted October 2, 2008 Share Posted October 2, 2008 1. fold2. bet the flopas for getting raised, cross the bridge when you come to it, you still have alot of equity.3. fold it would be better to have any smallish pair or suited connector in this spot than AJo4. i probably just flat, even though there's probably some value from like Arag hands and i think sometimes you should RR the river. Link to post Share on other sites
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