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[copernicus]

The Obama Truth Squad....prosecuting what they deem to be "lies" about Obama.

<H3 style="TEXT-ALIGN: left">Gov. Blunt Statement on Obama Campaign’s Abusive Use of Missouri Law Enforcement</H3>

JEFFERSON CITY - Gov. Matt Blunt today issued the following statement on news reports that have exposed plans by U.S. Senator Barack Obama to use Missouri law enforcement to threaten and intimidate his critics.

“St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer, and Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign.

“What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.

“This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights. The only conceivable purpose of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election.

“Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts - not a free society.”

[copernicus]

and rather than start a new thread on sleazy campaigning, they sent a text message to their supporters to only watch the debate on CNN.

[LincolnK]

There is no actual content in that statement. What are they responding to?

[checkymcfold]

freedom of speech does not guarantee the freedom to lie when it causes harm to others. we have slander laws, don't we?

it'd be nice if your "article" had some content, but it's hard to say more without that.



fwiw, i hope that we do draw legal lines between what is ok and what isn't ok when we're stretching the truth in campaigns. democracy depends on information, and when you kill the latter through excessive obfuscatory advertisements and statements, you annihilate the former at the same time.

[copernicus]

freedom of speech does not guarantee the freedom to lie when it causes harm to others. we have slander laws, don't we?

I see. And only Republicans lie, so they form an Obama Truth Squad.

this is intimidation using the Mo legal system and nothing less.

[85suited]

And here is how the republicans handled all of the smears on Palin

http://www.johnmccain.com/Informing/News/P...e1c1e5039a0.htm

Republican Statement
In the event of false attacks, rumors and smears against Governor Palin, the Palin Truth Squad will issue alerts and statements to voters and the media to set the record straight. Additionally, the Truth Squad will be available to respond to inquiries from the media.

Democratic Statement
KMOV aired a story last night, that stated that St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch and St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, both Obama supporters, are threatening to bring criminal libel charges against anyone who levels what turns out to be false criticisms of their chosen candidate for President

Interesting...

[JustDoIt]

The Obama Truth Squad....prosecuting what they deem to be "lies" about Obama.

<H3 style="TEXT-ALIGN: left">Gov. Blunt Statement on Obama Campaign’s Abusive Use of Missouri Law Enforcement</H3>

JEFFERSON CITY - Gov. Matt Blunt today issued the following statement on news reports that have exposed plans by U.S. Senator Barack Obama to use Missouri law enforcement to threaten and intimidate his critics.

“St. Louis County Circuit Attorney Bob McCulloch, St. Louis City Circuit Attorney Jennifer Joyce, Jefferson County Sheriff Glenn Boyer, and Obama and the leader of his Missouri campaign Senator Claire McCaskill have attached the stench of police state tactics to the Obama-Biden campaign.

“What Senator Obama and his helpers are doing is scandalous beyond words, the party that claims to be the party of Thomas Jefferson is abusing the justice system and offices of public trust to silence political criticism with threats of prosecution and criminal punishment.

“This abuse of the law for intimidation insults the most sacred principles and ideals of Jefferson. I can think of nothing more offensive to Jefferson’s thinking than using the power of the state to deprive Americans of their civil rights. The only conceivable purpose of Messrs. McCulloch, Obama and the others is to frighten people away from expressing themselves, to chill free and open debate, to suppress support and donations to conservative organizations targeted by this anti-civil rights, to strangle criticism of Mr. Obama, to suppress ads about his support of higher taxes, and to choke out criticism on television, radio, the Internet, blogs, e-mail and daily conversation about the election.

“Barack Obama needs to grow up. Leftist blogs and others in the press constantly say false things about me and my family. Usually, we ignore false and scurrilous accusations because the purveyors have no credibility. When necessary, we refute them. Enlisting Missouri law enforcement to intimidate people and kill free debate is reminiscent of the Sedition Acts - not a free society.”

Hmm........Saul Alinsky would be proud.

KMOV TV St. Louis report.

http://www.kmov.com/video/index.html?nvid=285793&shu=1

[Zealous Donkey]

http://www.kmov.com/video/index.html?nvid=285793&shu=1

This is extremely hypocritical if you knew what kind of adds the democrats have run in Missouri in recent elections. One they ran stated that voting for George W. Bush would cause an increase in Black Church burnings.

P.S. I live in Missouri

[checkymcfold]

I see. And only Republicans lie, so they form an Obama Truth Squad.

this is intimidation using the Mo legal system and nothing less.

i don't think you read good. like, at all. i would say the same thing if someone made a thread about mccain's campaign doing the same thing, and if obama was lying about mccain frequently.

the point remains that your article doesn't actually say anything about what the legal action concerns, fwiw.

[checkymcfold]

http://www.kmov.com/video/index.html?nvid=285793&shu=1

This is extremely hypocritical if you knew what kind of adds the democrats have run in Missouri in recent elections. One they ran stated that voting for George W. Bush would cause an increase in Black Church burnings.

P.S. I live in Missouri

i think we can all agree that 537 groups suck ass on either side.

[copernicus]

i don't think you read good. like, at all. i would say the same thing if someone made a thread about mccain's campaign doing the same thing, and if obama was lying about mccain frequently.

the point remains that your article doesn't actually say anything about what the legal action concerns, fwiw.

plenty of other peoples responses tell you that. And Obama is lying about McCain frequently, so wtf is your point?



ITS THE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALLY SANCTIONING A GROUP CALLED THE OBAMA TRUTH SQUAD. ARE YOU A ****ING IDIOT?

[checkymcfold]

plenty of other peoples responses tell you that. And Obama is lying about McCain frequently, so wtf is your point?



ITS THE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALLY SANCTIONING A GROUP CALLED THE OBAMA TRUTH SQUAD. ARE YOU A ****ING IDIOT?

it doesn't appear that anyone used that term but you, kiddo. (obama truth squad, just to be clear)

and typing in all caps doesn't make an imposed term appear in something when it's not there. your article doesn't actually provide any evidence for anything about an issue that most of us haven't heard about yet, since we don't read the drudge report or whatever it is that's coming from. if you provided a link to a more original source, that would be more than a little helpful, and might actually provide some content to these odd accusations that have yet to be substantiated here in any way, shape, or form.

[copernicus]

it doesn't appear that anyone used that term but you, kiddo. (obama truth squad, just to be clear)

and typing in all caps doesn't make an imposed term appear in something when it's not there. your article doesn't actually provide any evidence for anything about an issue that most of us haven't heard about yet, since we don't read the drudge report or whatever it is that's coming from. if you provided a link to a more original source, that would be more than a little helpful, and might actually provide some content to these odd accusations that have yet to be substantiated here in any way, shape, or form.

Just the Governor of Missouri. Good bye, moron.

[timwakefield]

And as LincolnK said, there is absolutely no content in that passage. He accuses Obama of many vague things, and offer exactly ZERO examples.


I don't get it.

[timwakefield]

Just the Governor of Missouri. Good bye, moron.

Out of curiosity, have you ever been wrong about anything ever? Just wondering because you act...what's the word?...infallible.

[checkymcfold]

Just the Governor of Missouri. Good bye, moron.

i'm so confused. honestly. the first reply in this thread by lincolnmk said precisely what i'm talking about, and it's becoming abundantly clear that you can't provide a real rebuttal to it. that's fine, it happens sometimes.

[copernicus]

And as LincolnK said, there is absolutely no content in that passage. He accuses Obama of many vague things, and offer exactly ZERO examples.


I don't get it.

ZD posted the video, do i have to come to your house and click the link for you?

[JustDoIt]

I think Obama Truth Squad needs to take care of their own! Just Out.

The Smear It's called "Palin's Secret Allegiance"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQGv7linCVY

What she really said!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI

http://jimtreacher.com/archives/001633.html

[checkymcfold]

ZD posted the video, do i have to come to your house and click the link for you?

yes, i watched the video. it bothers me a little bit that political people are getting involved (edit: though all the people included in the video are related to law enforcement: see below), but i do happen to think that it should be illegal to outright lie in a campaign (as would be the case with statements concerning obama raising taxes on the middle class and being a muslim, the only two examples provided in the video). the problem with your claim is that if missouri ethics law is what people are talking about here (and i sincerely doubt that anyone knows that off the top of their head), any illegality of anything we're talking about here is naturally going to involve prosecutors and law enforcement. that seems like a duh to me.

in short, it seems largely that you have an issue with either missouri ethics law or anyone who chooses to enforce it or possibly (read: entirely likely), you just like yelling about anything the obama campaign does because you think obama is teh satan.

[timwakefield]

ZD posted the video, do i have to come to your house and click the link for you?

Oh. I didn't realize what a wealth of evidence and insight there would be in a 2-minute story on local news containing a 30-second interview with a couple of city prosecutors. John Mills, the local tv reporter, really cleared everything up though, now I understand the entire story.