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#1 ratbastrd05

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 03:49 PM

Really, what gives? Each week we just get one series of videos from a single pro, and a bunch of :30 second Q&A's. Why isn't there more content? I left CardRunners because I thought this would be better. The amount (and quality) of videos they put up makes PokerVT look silly.

The whole point is Daniel teaching poker. Yet the videos of him actually playing are few and far between. I have been extremely disapointed with my membership.

#2 mrsmallstack

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 11:43 PM

I concur this is getting ridiculous. Every Friday new videos are added, and only on Friday. Yet this week i get home Friday night and there are no new videos. I am starting a free trail at pokersavvyplus and already the content is far superior to pokervt. If you guys don't seriously step your game I'm gone and i highly doubt if i will be the only one leaving for greener pastures.

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Posted 27 September 2008 - 07:34 AM

Agreed. I've updated my original post praising the site.

It needs to change - and quickly.
All the best

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Posted 27 September 2008 - 11:06 AM

relax guys only another couple months of golf weather icon_confused.gif

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Posted 27 September 2008 - 11:23 AM

http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...howtopic=128792




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Posted 27 September 2008 - 10:37 PM

QUOTE (ratbastrd05 @ Friday, September 26th, 2008, 3:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I left CardRunners because I thought this would be better.



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Posted 27 September 2008 - 11:19 PM

QUOTE (DanielNegreanu @ Saturday, September 27th, 2008, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My schedule has been a bit crazy being overseas and that's caused a delay in the new content being delivered because I have to do all the audio for it. I'll be back on Oct 7th and will spend two days working on content. Should take about 3 days to be up after that. Also, online videos, I'm going to go over all 8 of my WCOOP heads up matches in detail as well as adding some more $1-$2 NL videos where I spend more time at the table.


This is exactly the problem. Look at the output on Deuces Cracked. Think about why that is:



That man doesn't have a girlfriend, or friends or a tournament schedule. Would you hang out with that guy? Not if you like pussy. All that man is capable of is uncunting mother****ers at the poker table, and all he has to do is push a button to let us watch.

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 12:49 AM

QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Saturday, September 27th, 2008, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is exactly the problem. Look at the output on Deuces Cracked. Think about why that is:



That man doesn't have a girlfriend, or friends or a tournament schedule. Would you hang out with that guy? Not if you like pussy. All that man is capable of is uncunting mother****ers at the poker table, and all he has to do is push a button to let us watch.



Well, duecescracked is okay, I guess.. but for my poker education dollar, I like to go with someone a little more tried and true.. I go with...


Sit-N-Go Domination....

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 01:07 AM

I'm in awe, Mac. I had no clue there was an even worse course on the market.

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 01:14 AM

QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Sunday, September 28th, 2008, 2:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is exactly the problem. Look at the output on Deuces Cracked. Think about why that is:



That man doesn't have a girlfriend, or friends or a tournament schedule. Would you hang out with that guy? Not if you like pussy. All that man is capable of is uncunting mother****ers at the poker table, and all he has to do is push a button to let us watch.


I don't know...

Daniel, I'm sorry but after looking at that guy and reading Deathdonkey's resume on Deucescracked, I am going to cancel my subscription to PVT and hire him. How in the hell are you going to compete with that resume? You have a pro that can't even beat Jamie Gold for the Main Event! Besides, I think that you have a girl working for you that isn't even old enough to play in my casino.

Canada may be the linchpin of the English speaking world, but I don't even know what street Canada is on?

Is it true that you are completely broke and that's why your mom made all your food during the WSOP? I heard that you couldn't even get a comp for the buffet at the RIO?

Thanks for all the help but I'm heading to the STABLE at DEUCESCRACKED! They have REAL stallions in their field! If I had a real stud working for me, I would have won THREE seats to the Main Event!

One last thing, I still want your action at the Venetian. I'll pay your $145 entry into the Tuesday Venetian tournament, but you'll have to come up with the $5 bonus. I need you to win though because I need $200 for an hour of coaching from my new coach, datwit. They told me that if I can get up to playing 2-4 limit, I can become a coach and make $300 an hour!

GL and thanks again!

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 01:21 AM

I guess "knows a lot about math and game theory" doesn't fill out a resume like tournament results, but I doubt there are many people without an interest in the success of PVT who honestly believe it's a better product than DC.

(For cash games, anyway. I didn't realize people even still played tournies.)

#12 Paul Brevard

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 01:47 AM

QUOTE (Dirtydutch @ Sunday, September 28th, 2008, 4:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess "knows a lot about math and game theory" doesn't fill out a resume like tournament results, but I doubt there are many people without an interest in the success of PVT who honestly believe it's a better product than DC.

(For cash games, anyway. I didn't realize people even still played tournies.)


You're right! That's why I'm leaving PVT. When I read that I can give Blumpster $250 an hour to teach me Stud 8, I was sold.

When I read...

"Although I do not have a lot of poker coaching experience, I have a lot of teaching experience (as a Teaching Assistant at UCLA in advanced undergraduate courses), and I am confident in my ability to improve the skills of my students.

Rate: $250"

I said SOLD!!!!!

Besides, I have mastered the PVT site and have a complete grasp on that broke Daniel Negreanu. That guy couldn't even take down the player of the year! I have come to realize that it just isn't worth it to wait for a has been pro that can barely afford to play 4000/8000 anymore. When I saw all the player of the year winner's and high stakes Bellagio players in the STABLE, I knew it was for me!

Sorry, I have to go. They are teaching me how to contact friends to fill a table and how to instant message our hands and use our math skills to calculate if I should call when my friend says he has one of my outs.

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 02:00 AM

The psychotic level to which you praise this site can mean only one of two things, Paul....


1) you a joke account, and this is an elaborate level... If so, then Kudos to you, you're hilarious.


2) If you're not a joke, you're an obvious shill for Poker VT. Your account was created at the start of the Poker VT era, and all of your posts are praising poker VT. Which means, more than likely, you are DN himself, or someone else who works for Poker VT. What you are doing is shameful and dishonest, and only a thin slice above Micon's "testamonials"
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After downloading the Micon system, I listened to it about 3 times. I printed the strategy sheet and went over it with a fine tooth comb. When i played in my first few tourneys, i found myself going deeper into the tourneys than i had done before. I eventually started to make the money in some multitable tourneys I two SnG,180 player max, I finally won them both,$1080.00. I've used the system regularly, but I have to say I haven't made a final table in a while. Even though I have been cashing using the system.

Steven Golub



You've sunk to the level of Micon, team Poker VT. Gratz.

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#14 Dirtydutch

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 02:13 AM

Listen: I'm sorry if I came off as a bit of an ass, and it's my understanding that you've had some success with PVT, but most of those Deuces Cracked guys really are phenomenal. They have a much better understanding of the tangible, teachable aspects of poker than DN does, and have a hell of a lot more experience with online poker, and more importantly with actually using those concepts to turn players into solid, pro-caliber winners.

Anyone looking to learn to beat various cash games is way, WAY better off with Deuces Cracked or even Stox or Cardrunners, whether or not their instructors have dazzling public images.

Maybe live, DN is a much better player than Bryce or Death Donkey, but that doesn't mean his videos are as good or as voluminous, and a lot of those skills that make him a better player are either not really very teachable or don't apply to online poker, which is what most of us play. It's just a better product. I'm not making this up.

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 04:16 AM

DeathDonkey is married. That is all.

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 04:48 AM

QUOTE (DinkDonk @ Sunday, September 28th, 2008, 4:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
DeathDonkey is married. That is all.


There goes that fantasy...

#17 rayen

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 04:53 AM

It's true that PVT does lack in the content department but in my opinion you won't find a site that has better variety than PokerVT.
Can't tell you how much the Q&A has helped my play improve, its like an online coach ... whenever you stumble upon something you wondering about
you most likely will find it answered in the Q&A section.

The thing that is lacking is the online video's of them playing ... other than that I dont really see what the big problem is .... you probably have up to 100 hours of content and you feel that is not enough? If you have that mindset than it will never be enough ... you will allways feel like there isnt enough videos to make you improve.

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 05:03 AM

PVT would be a fine product. 100 hours is certainly a large-sounding amount, without perspective. If this were 5 years ago and this were to come along, I'd think it was pretty cool. But it's stepped into a competitive market where it's probably the worst (nonMicon-endorsed) option I've seen. I'll ignore Mac's point that all PTV apologists seem suspiciously combative and shill-like and simply assume that you're defending your decision to spend a LOT of money on a product people are attacking, and people are getting a little upset about it. I'm not trying to cause trouble, I was just agreeing with the commonly voiced sentiment that PVT is just not even close to as good as its competitors.

I'm sure it helps people's games more than nothing, but if you're subscribing to one site, from what I've seen, it's pretty much either CR or DC, in my opinion.

#19 rayen

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 05:13 AM

It's not that much money in my opinion ... but the situation might be different for a student.
Im sure there is "better" alternatives on the market right now considering amount of content ... but you have to realize that pokerVT is fairly new and they are probably still figuring out how they want their site to be like (adding new coaches, who does what etc) and what they are gonna do for future. My point is that the content available today should be enough to make you a winning player ... you dont want to have the mindset that "Oh this is not enough to make me a good player , that site has 1000 more videos live coaches and someone to hold my hand". I think that people are often way to early to judge something that is new compared to the competitors. But I can see your point that you probably can get more videos per dollar on other sites.

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Posted 28 September 2008 - 05:17 AM

Not just more: better. I'm sure it could make you a winning player. Just not as completely or easily.

If the site is still getting its shit together, call me when it's together. No point in my dishing out $30/month, plus $120 up front, when the content is really not ready.




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