whatgreatis 0 Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Is there any value in a raise here? Villain is a competent multitabling reg who's 20/15/3 over a short sample. I'm playing 24/19/3 and we haven't gotten too crazy with each other besides me 3 betting him in position twice.What kind of range do you put him on?Absolute PokerNo Limit Holdem Ring gameBlinds: $0.10/$0.255 playersConverterStack sizes:Hero: $41.68CO: $7.85Button: $28.28SB: $13.31BB: $71.09Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with 7 6 Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: 4 A 9 ($2.55, 3 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $2, SB folds, BB calls.Turn: T ($6.55, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls.River: T ($14.55, 2 players)BB bets $6, Hero? Link to post Share on other sites
LJB723 0 Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 No. He's the only guy at the table that can stack you. You have a baby flush on a paired board if your ahead you're never getting anything more out of him and he's never folding better. I'd be sick if he did, but he could have or the like. Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I like a small raise here because of his small blocker. Raise to like 14-15. He'll justify a call with pot odds enough (a big mistake imo).Edit: I also bet turn more.And to those people that claim that this is the only guy that can stack you. You will never get your stack in here so that is irrelavant. Raise and obviously fold to a 3bet. You will virtually NEVER get bluff 3bet on the river once you raise. Link to post Share on other sites
LJB723 0 Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I like a small raise here because of his small blocker. Raise to like 14-15. He'll justify a call with pot odds enough (a big mistake imo).With what? Tx Ax? Doubtful. Raising and folding to a 3bet achieves the same thing as calling if we're beat but for much cheaper. Our flush is only 7-hi after all.And to those people that claim that this is the only guy that can stack you. You will never get your stack in here so that is irrelavant. Raise and obviously fold to a 3bet. You will virtually NEVER get bluff 3bet on the river once you raise.Fair point. Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 With what? Tx Ax? Doubtful. Raising and folding to a 3bet achieves the same thing as calling if we're beat but for much cheaper. Our flush is only 7-hi after all.You assume people are playing perfectly. They aren't. He makes a really small blocker bet, which makes it unlikely that we're beaten to begin with (and it's a spot I might raise as a bluff). This is 25 NL, where people are going to be making tons of mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 Also keep in mind that my raise would be about what I would valuebet if I were checked to (I'd probably vbet 11 to 12 and raise to 14). Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 1 Posted September 21, 2008 Share Posted September 21, 2008 I like a small raise too.He shouldn't have a flush here if he's competent, so your hand is pretty much as strong as Ks2s, and if he flopped a set he's taken a very weak line.I think there is definitely some value to a raise here. He could definitely have A-X, or KsTx, which will call a small raise a decent % of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
david_keena 0 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I like a small raise too.He shouldn't have a flush here if he's competent, so your hand is pretty much as strong as Ks2s, and if he flopped a set he's taken a very weak line.I think there is definitely some value to a raise here. He could definitely have A-X, or KsTx, which will call a small raise a decent % of the time. Link to post Share on other sites
whatgreatis 0 Posted September 22, 2008 Author Share Posted September 22, 2008 Results: I raised to 18 and he snapppppp called with 99. Link to post Share on other sites
NoBBiR 0 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 Results: I raised to 18 and he snapppppp called with 99.He played it like a tool. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 2 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 He played it like a tool.Oh man. Agreed. And I don't raise the river. Link to post Share on other sites
Snake Plissken 0 Posted September 22, 2008 Share Posted September 22, 2008 I like a small raise here because of his small blocker. Raise to like 14-15. He'll justify a call with pot odds enough (a big mistake imo).Edit: I also bet turn more.And to those people that claim that this is the only guy that can stack you. You will never get your stack in here so that is irrelavant. Raise and obviously fold to a 3bet. You will virtually NEVER get bluff 3bet on the river once you raise. You assume people are playing perfectly. They aren't. He makes a really small blocker bet, which makes it unlikely that we're beaten to begin with (and it's a spot I might raise as a bluff). This is 25 NL, where people are going to be making tons of mistakes.100% correct imo. I'd take him to value town any day of the week Link to post Share on other sites
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