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[NoBBiR]

Villain seems kinda fishy, overvalues TP, etc. Standard 10nl opponent.Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.comButton ($30.35)SB ($52.70)BB ($14.15)UTG ($9.85)MP ($34.50)Hero ($10.40)Preflop: Hero is CO with A[:club:], T[:club:]. 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, Button calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, 1 fold.Flop: ($1.15) K[:diamond:], Q[:club:], 2[:club:] (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, Button calls $0.75, SB calls $0.75.Turn: ($3.40) 2[:diamond:] (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $2, Button raises to $5, SB folds, Hero calls $3.River: ($13.40) A[:spade:] (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $24.25 ($4.30 really) (All-In), Hero calls $4.30 (All-In).Final Pot: $41.95 ($22.00 really)We good? I can't fold turn, (getting 3.5ish:1) right? Shove turn (doubtful he folds anything)? I rarely ever think he has a 2 (unless he had quads). He's bad, but not mentally retarded. C/c river? Shove river?

[psujohn]

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[Snamuh]

I'm debating if river can be a fold. But then I consider a tool might have KQ here. I check turn often fwiw. Despite our big draw, they're pretty much never folding turn after calling flop and I don't want to get blown off of it.

[NoBBiR]

Snamuh, on Saturday, September 20th, 2008, 3:46 PM, said:

I'm debating if river can be a fold. But then I consider a tool might have KQ here. I check turn often fwiw. Despite our big draw, they're pretty much never folding turn after calling flop and I don't want to get blown off of it.

I was thinking KQ too, most people wouldn't notice that it's not good if I have a lone Ace at 10nl.As for checking the turn, do we snap call if either villain pots it and fold UI on the river?

[krup24]

NoBBiR, on Saturday, September 20th, 2008, 7:57 PM, said:

I was thinking KQ too, most people wouldn't notice that it's not good if I have a lone Ace at 10nl.As for checking the turn, do we snap call if either villain pots it and fold UI on the river?

if i c/c turn i'm gonna c/c that river A vs most villians and c/f without it, on occasion b/f river ui is oki check the turn here most of the time

[Moneyball16]

I think if you are planning on c/c this river you should be pushing yourself so he doesn't check back a Kx, but a c/f may be best.

[trystero]

I guess he's got a deuce ? but it's hard to put him on that. Honestly it looks most like a $10 NL tard who's shoving KQ here.I play this the same

[mtdesmoines]

NoBBiR, on Saturday, September 20th, 2008, 3:35 PM, said:

Villain seems kinda fishy, overvalues TP, etc. Standard 10nl opponent.Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.comButton ($30.35)SB ($52.70)BB ($14.15)UTG ($9.85)MP ($34.50)Hero ($10.40)Preflop: Hero is CO with A[:club:], T[:club:]. 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, Button calls $0.35, SB calls $0.30, 1 fold.Flop: ($1.15) K[:diamond:], Q[:club:], 2[:club:] (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $0.75, Button calls $0.75, SB calls $0.75.Turn: ($3.40) 2[:diamond:] (3 players)SB checks, Hero bets $2, Button raises to $5, SB folds, Hero calls $3.River: ($13.40) A[:spade:] (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $24.25 ($4.30 really) (All-In), Hero calls $4.30 (All-In).Final Pot: $41.95 ($22.00 really)We good? I can't fold turn, (getting 3.5ish:1) right? Shove turn (doubtful he folds anything)? I rarely ever think he has a 2 (unless he had quads). He's bad, but not mentally retarded. C/c river? Shove river?

I think you just shove it in on the turn considering stacks.

[LJB723]

mtdesmoines, on Sunday, September 21st, 2008, 6:13 AM, said:

I think you just shove it in on the turn considering stacks.

My thoughts exactly.

[psujohn]

mtdesmoines, on Sunday, September 21st, 2008, 1:13 AM, said:

I think you just shove it in on the turn considering stacks.

Why exactly?We have zero fold equity, we never have the best hand and villain is never folding if we improve on the river.I often do shove it on the turn out of frustration and a "hey I'm never folding the river anyway" feeling but I think it's wrong to do and best to c/f the river UI. While we have next to nothing left in dollar terms it's actually 43 bb.

[NoSup4U]

I would probably shove the river and expect to get called by KJ or KQ. Other than that I play it the same. I would never shove the turn, you have no fold equity so you're basically getting your money in behind/dead.Mark

[NoBBiR]

NoSup4U, on Sunday, September 21st, 2008, 8:11 AM, said:

I would probably shove the river and expect to get called by KJ or KQ. Other than that I play it the same. I would never shove the turn, you have no fold equity so you're basically getting your money in behind/dead.Mark

That's what I was thinking.