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[JFinn08]

Here we go: $50max (.25/.50) NLHE table Ive been at the table for about an hour and built my stack to around $90 or so. Im in the SB and get 2 limpers before me. I look down at KK. I raise to $2 BB calls As does one of the limpers Flop comes QQ9 I bet $4 to see where Im at BB calls Limper folds Turn is a 10 Now at this point I don’t know what to put the BB on. Is he slowplaying the Q? Mid PP?? I bet $8 He smooth calls River brings a 3rd Q Alright I don’t have to worry about any flush or straights now so that’s good, but what the hell does the BB have?? I slow down and check BB pushes all in and has me covered Whats my move? Feel free to critize my play too please!! (constructive only please - being called a pathetic ass clown wont help my game at all - AH screw it)

[cdddc75]

Bet more on the flop.Bet a lot more on the turn.Then you know whether to push or check/fold on the river.He only beats you with the case Q or AA...I probably call. But then, I'd have probably been pushing out front on that river.

[Vade]

First of all, bring strategy questions here, we don't biteGeneral is for flamewars and stupid things mostlyAnywho...raise more preflop, bet more on the flop. And keep attacking this pot.I think you have to call. This smells like a buy to me.

[JFinn08]

Well at least my thinking after the fact is on par with some of the better players here. Now if I can only start making these decisions when it counts. I agree my betting on all streets was horrible. I am normally pretty agressive, when I looked at this hand afterwards I just couldnt figure out what I was trying to accomplish. Ill be honest, there was no way I thought he had the Q. I had him on a mid pp and I was smiling when I made the call.He flips AAAnd its time to reloadDoes anybody else push the river with AA here??If only I bet the river, I could have saved a ton of money. Live and learn I guess. Thanks guys!!

[cdddc75]

That sucks.It's just too bad you didn't have the case queen to punish limperdonk.

[JFinn08]

XXEddie said:

JFinn08 said:

Well at least my thinking after the fact is on par with some of the better players here. Now if I can only start making these decisions when it counts. I agree my betting on all streets was horrible. I am normally pretty agressive, when I looked at this hand afterwards I just couldnt figure out what I was trying to accomplish. Ill be honest, there was no way I thought he had the Q. I had him on a mid pp and I was smiling when I made the call.He flips AAAnd its time to reloadDoes anybody else push the river with AA here??If only I bet the river, I could have saved a ton of money. Live and learn I guess. Thanks guys!!

yes!!!!only a Q has you beat if you have AAand your opponent has checked....how do you not think you have the best hand

Eddie - I dont understand why a push on the river with AA is your best play there. Your either beat by the case queen or you might have two hands that call you - KK (unfortunatley) and the other AA. I dont see JJ or less calling an all in here. I probably make a more reasonable bet on the river here and try to drag those mid PP hands. But then again - What do I know???

[Petoria]

Vade said:

First of all, bring strategy questions here, we don't biteGeneral is for flamewars and stupid things mostlyAnywho...raise more preflop, bet more on the flop. And keep attacking this pot.I think you have to call. This smells like a buy to me.

This is a standard 4xBB raise, I don't see any problem with that, it gets you the number of callers you want with KK in most situations.I think I've gotta fold here. The way I play .25/.50 NL is simple, and probably pretty tight. When a tough decision comes along and I have less than a set, I usually fold. I can win at .25/.50 NL without having to make difficult decisions. I save my money to get it in at a better spot. People will double you up when you hit a set most of the time. Wait for a better time. Also, usually an overbet on the river means a pretty big hand.

[Vade]

4xBB is a nice general theory, but you really have to add at least 1 if not 2 BB for each limper. A lot of people love limping with good hands, so I think a 6-8 BB raise is far better. Avoid pricing people into calls with random aces.

[wisky_VI]

Vade said:

4xBB is a nice general theory, but you really have to add at least 1 if not 2 BB for each limper. A lot of people love limping with good hands, so I think a 6-8 BB raise is far better. Avoid pricing people into calls with random aces.

The more I play NL 1/2 I think this is absolutely neccesary. With the modern game 3x BB does little or nothing. Either raise 4x-6x BB and risk no action plus throw in some limp/call or limp/ CR to mix things up against known fish. Maybe it's just variance but I've had pretty good hands lose a fair amount lately with limpers holding top 20 starting hands and it gets old. Slowplaying a high PP now and again gives my weekly opponents something to chew on IMHO. As for the players floating in and out on the net I just have to grin and bear it, surely within a few hands if the person is still there I can outplay them.So many 3-4x raises get called and then if not a pp with a flop of rags the hand is shot. I guess this is more of a NL thing due to throwing the all in play to the mix.