Please Somebody Help Explain

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i don't usually do this, but the players name is dprociak on full tilt. if anybody has played with him and remember anything i would love to hear it. his stats seem to be converging to around 32/13/.90 which is really weird. so i laughed at him in the chatbox after this when he complimented me and told me i played the hand well. he said if i knew his though process i would be blown away. naturally he refused to share with me said though process. he has played about 15 hands with me up until now. he hasn't seen me play a single big pot. i've thought long and hard about my range here his call is just horrible. this makes sense if he is the best plo8 player ever and he knows me very very well. it also would be very unusual for a poker player of the caliber capable of this level of thinking to brag about it the way he did. and why the hell would he be playing .50/1 on a friday night at a table that isn't even all that great? i feel like my mind has just snapped. Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$16 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $102.20UTG+1: $26.50Hero: $193.35Button: $108.60SB: $262BB: $50Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 7 K A 2 UTG raises to $3.5, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds.Flop: J Q 2 ($11.5, 3 players)SB checks, UTG bets $9, Hero calls, SB folds.Turn: 7 ($29.5, 2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $29.5, UTG calls.River: Q ($88.5, 2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $88.5, UTG calls all-in $60.2.Uncalled bets: $28.3 returned to Hero. Results:Final pot: $208.9UTG showed Ah Jc Tc 9sHero showed 7d Kh Ac 2clol then now i just saw this. this one makes even less sense to me. he is the guy with the kings. utg is a loose passive retard, but once again he can't really know that becouse he just sat down. loose passive retards have the nut flush here a whole lot, they bet a tiny bit on the turn becouse they think they should bet but they are scared, then their flush card hits and then put a bet in. when they don't have the flush they usually have the boat with something like q2. Full Tilt PokerPot Limit Omaha Hi/Lo Ring gameBlinds: $0.50/$15 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $40.45CO: $116.10Hero: $82.30SB: $26.65BB: $116.30Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is Button with T K A 9 UTG raises to $3.5, CO folds, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: 9 3 Q ($14, 4 players)SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $4, Hero calls, SB folds, BB calls.Turn: 2 ($26, 3 players)BB checks, UTG bets $3, Hero calls, BB calls.River: Q ($35, 3 players)BB checks, UTG bets $9, Hero folds, BB calls.Results:Final pot: $53BB showed Ks 5s Jh KhUTG showed Kd Ah 8h 3s

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i'm confused, isn't the call pretty normal? if i saw someone call the flop i'd put them on ak102, ak103 more often than i would top pair or second pair, and on the turn it looks like you have a broadway wrap + a3, and MAYBE a heart draw, so he called to see a river and got what was roughly the safest river possible for him (other than another jack)i probably wouldn't make the call unless i was one tabling (and in a mood to do crazy stuff), but it doesn't seem genius. wouldn't you raise a3qx on the flop? you'd definitely raise a2q, right?

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i'm pretty sure that i play both the same way.if you've shown ANY predilection to valuebet when you have a nut hand, or if you've shown me that you play good, solid, logical poker, the first hand is a seemingly tough, but actually very, very easy call. you woke up on a 7, so you either have 77 or nothing. 77 is obviously very, very rare for anyone with a clue in o8 variants. that's a one low flop, so you're def firing a set to keep low draws out and iso a wrap draw or something. and finally, an overpair has significant showdown value, so there's no way you'd fire that one so big.obv air, imo, if you really trust yourself .

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i'm confused, isn't the call pretty normal? if i saw someone call the flop i'd put them on ak102, ak103 more often than i would top pair or second pair, and on the turn it looks like you have a broadway wrap + a3, and MAYBE a heart draw, so he called to see a river and got what was roughly the safest river possible for him (other than another jack)i probably wouldn't make the call unless i was one tabling (and in a mood to do crazy stuff), but it doesn't seem genius. wouldn't you raise a3qx on the flop? you'd definitely raise a2q, right?

no. im more likely to raise the flop with a draw than a set. this is becouse he is vey likely to fold that flop and if i have a draw i want him to fold but if i have a set i want him to put more chips in on the tun. pair and two pair hands fall in between. but if he knows me well, on the turn i am very likely to have him beat (lol and i do), but on that river when i bet im actually very likely to be bluffing. i can't quite explain why that is, but its true and i think its correct given the way games currently play. it f****ed with my heads so bad becouse it is such an easy call when you think about it, but in a whole lot of plo8 hands, even at higher limits, i have never had somebody make that call. although now that i think about it i "overplay" my aces into big pots like that a whole lot, which is really the same thing.

if you've shown ANY predilection to valuebet when you have a nut hand, or if you've shown me that you play good, solid, logical poker, the first hand is a seemingly tough, but actually very, very easy call. you woke up on a 7, so you either have 77 or nothing. 77 is obviously very, very rare for anyone with a clue in o8 variants. that's a one low flop, so you're def firing a set to keep low draws out and iso a wrap draw or something. and finally, an overpair has significant showdown value, so there's no way you'd fire that one so big.obv air, imo, if you really trust yourself smile.gif.

i haven't shown any predilection to do anything, i have played 12 hands lifetime with this guy up to this point and he has seen me play one small pot where i raised it preflop and then bet the flop and won. this hand makes me not want to post about certain things on forums anymore, ill say that much. thats my only guess about how me knew to play that hand against me like that. maybe i've corrected people at 4 too many times or something, i dunno, nobody there ever seemed to take notice of what i said.... the dude was right though, we both played it right.