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[21gambit]

Im curious about how most of you all would play an Open Ended Straight Flush Draw(on the flop) in a NL cash game. I hear people on the forum saying that you cant push all in on a draw in a cash game, but this is not just any draw, this is the draw of draws.You have 64d in the bb and the flop comes 7d5d2c, the small blind checks to you.So how would you play it?

[allinbluff35]

i lead for 3/4 of the pot if it's checked to me usually

[21gambit]

Good move, lets say youre raised 2x the pot....What then?

[allinbluff35]

21gambit said:

Good move, lets say youre raised 2x the pot....What then?

that depends on your position in the hand, what type of player is raising, and all that fun stuff

[21gambit]

The thing is, youre only an underdog to a set(on the flop) so I believe the only question you have to ask is, does he have a set. Top two pair is even a dog to you. Thats actually not quite true. If someone has a hand like A2d or some sort of bigger flush draw you are a bit of a dog, but this is why I like the move of pushing all in so much. You force out any bigger flush draws.

[cdddc75]

21gambit said:

Good move, lets say youre raised 2x the pot....What then?

Easy push.

[Jubba]

cdddc75 said:

21gambit said:

Good move, lets say youre raised 2x the pot....What then?

Easy push.

[....Ian....]

yea push.and you're pretty much a coin flip to a set

[Chrisj1616]

this kind of draw you need to push hard in a cash game as long as ALL of your outs make you the winning hand. Pushing hard gives you enough folding equity+you hit half the time if youre called to make pushing very profitable in this situation

[Makata]

I doubt I'd push personally, though I tend not to like NL for that very reason. More of a "who has the bigger cajones" type of game rather than actual betting.Though if I get check-raised and I have OESF in NL, I'd personally just call. I can't imagine any hand that wouldn't call a push, but would lead out on the turn for a large amount. So if they call you with 2p / set / NFD or some such where you're a flip/UD then you've invested a whole lot of chips in a situation where you could easily lose.Whereas if you wait for turn to make a move and hit one of your 15 outs (even if 7 of then could potentially be tainted) and then play aggressively, you could probably win just about as much (assuming he leads and you either heavily raise/shove), but if it doesn't hit, you're now a dog to as little as a pair and coin flipping ace high, which is an easy fold, odds notwithstanding.