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[DCWildcat]

Poker Room format isn't currently working for the converter, sorry, I'll try my best to make this look pretty.Hero : Post Blind ($0.15)kn8dneh : Post Blind ($0.25)Dealt to DCWildcat: Q Q *** Pre-Flop *** : mateo7 : Call ($0.25), 3 folds, The Greek13 : Call ($0.25), sarikei : Raise ($0.50), Micah John : Call ($0.50), DCWildcat : Raise ($0.60), 2 foldsThe Greek13 : Call ($0.50)sarikei : Call ($0.25)Micah John : Call ($0.25)Pretty standard 3 bet here. Sarikei is a strange player, going from tight preflop to calling station postflop. Micah is tight/passive. TheGreek is a very bad LAG (limp/call 3 bet?). Big pot preflop (14 SB if I'm reading it right).*** Flop *** : 2 2 6 (14 SB)DCWildcat : Bet ($0.25)The Greek13 : Call ($0.25)sarikei : Call ($0.25)Micah John : FoldNothing threatening out there, but two calls kind of surprised me with a raggety paired rainbow board. At this point, I have no idea what anyone could be holding.*** Turn *** : [2 :heart: 2 :club: 6 :diamond: ] 4:club: (8.5 BB)DCWildcat : Bet ($0.50)The Greek13 : Raise ($1.00)sarikei : Call ($1.00)DCWildcat : Raise ($1.00)The Greek13 : Call ($0.50)sarikei : Call ($0.50)Raise would normally scream "set" to me, but TheGreek was very, VERY fishy. He hadn't slowplayed any made hands to this point, so I assumed that if he would have benefitted, he would have popped the flop. At worst I put him on A6. If sarikei had raised I would have just called & check/called down.*** River *** [ 2 :heart: 2 :club: 6 :diamond: 4 :club: ] 10 (17.5 BB)DCWildcat : Bet ($0.50)The Greek13 : Call ($0.50)sarikei : FoldThis was a very stupid bet on my part. Only hand that would call would have me beat, I think. *** SUMMARY ***Pot: 19.5 BBThoughts?

[rhino-]

Why do you question your river bet? If you were confident enough that your hand was best on the turn and you three bet there how does that river really change anything? The only thing that could have gotten there is pocket tens. I think as far as other streets go though I agree with everything you had done. But like I said i dont think you can three bet the turn and then not bet a fairly harmless card on the river. If it had been the ten of clubs then I could see checking and calling.

[vaglvr]

I agree with rhino, the raise is fine on the turn. Your going to know where you are. If he does have the set of twos and he doesn't raise you on the river after just calling the turn he should be kicked in the balls. Consider yourself lucky you didn't have to put in anymore bets. He misplayed the hand terribly if he did and assuming he had the set. It is very hard to put him on that two, but if he was a lag anything is possible. Two pair is possible but you have him beat, seriously doubt a straight, no flush, he would raise with a full house. Other than the set nothing is really possible, good raise and good bet on the river. If he chooses to set the price of a set at 3 bets on the turn and 1 on the river more power to him. However, isn't it likely he thinks with such a raggedy flop he thinks your Ak or Aq or KQ didnt hit and your bluffing, and with the bet he also knocks out sarekei. Thats not an entirely outlandish move. Since you posted it I think he had the set, but if i was guessing id say a pair along the lines of your guess A6...

[dms26]

You're giving way too much credit to low limit players, people call on the river with anything(or nothing). Good bet on the river even if you didn't win. Good raise on the turn, good 3 bet preflop.

[DCWildcat]

Thanks for your input. I'll let a few more replies come up before I tell you the results...they're pretty interesting.

[DCWildcat]

Villain had 35s (clubs) for a winning straight on the turn.

[BigDMcGee]

On the turn... Generally turn raises mean alot more than flop raises .. particularlly since the other guy cold called the raise...However, if you did feel confident enough to have three bet the turn there, then there's no reason no to bet the river.. it's not like an ace or king hit the board.. If you were ahead on the turn, the ten changed nothing... This said, I still think the turn re raise is suspect...

[RISEorFall]

Nice aggression. hands that call you on the river that you beat: A 6 that you put fishy on. JJ, 99, 88, 77 more than likely. Various hands that were calling w/ overcards and hit a 10 like A - 10 or K - 10. A 4 maybe hoping you didn't pair. 6 - 4 with a two pair not thinking you also have 2 pair. A couple of hands that beat you here but not too many. 3 5, then pockets that boated up. A-2 maybe. I agree though, if you three-bet the turn no reason to not bet the river. I think you're way ahead here more often than you are way behind.

[vaglvr]

DCWildcat said:

Villain had 35s (clubs) for a winning straight on the turn.

Wow thats a really confusing hand, lucky hes dumb enough to call you with stupid hands and dumb enough to not know how to maximize the profit of his hand.

[Absolute]

You played this ok.Just callin the turn raise and check/calling the river is ok too.Please stop posting results.

[Absolute]

rhino- said:

Why do you question your river bet? If you were confident enough that your hand was best on the turn and you three bet there how does that river really change anything? The only thing that could have gotten there is pocket tens. I think as far as other streets go though I agree with everything you had done. But like I said i dont think you can three bet the turn and then not bet a fairly harmless card on the river. If it had been the ten of clubs then I could see checking and calling.

thats one of the stupidest things ive ever heardif you 3bet the turn you bet the river regardless of the card.playing like a little girl gets you nowhere

[vaglvr]

Absolute said:

You played this ok.Just callin the turn raise and check/calling the river is ok too.Please stop posting results.

Does that mean you wont post the results to the hand where you had a set of queens and then the board had one to the straight? It's really bothering me.

[Absolute]

vaglvr said:

Absolute said:

You played this ok.Just callin the turn raise and check/calling the river is ok too.Please stop posting results.

Does that mean you wont post the results to the hand where you had a set of queens and then the board had one to the straight? It's really bothering me.

He had Kd10d

[vaglvr]

Absolute said:

vaglvr said:

Absolute said:

You played this ok.Just callin the turn raise and check/calling the river is ok too.Please stop posting results.

Does that mean you wont post the results to the hand where you had a set of queens and then the board had one to the straight? It's really bothering me.

He had Kd10d

Wow that sucks, it does make a few things a little bit clearer. I was completely off , but the two diamonds thing should kicked in. It was still a cool hand ty for clearing things up!Im just glad he didn't have something really stupid like J 10 and he was just a retard, or posts where the person finally posts the results and says oh yeah by the way he had a royal flush off the flop...

[DCWildcat]

Absolute said:

You played this ok.Just callin the turn raise and check/calling the river is ok too.Please stop posting results.

Sorry. Won't happen again. Unless another idiot plays 35s against a 3-bet preflop

[TheIceman05]

I can't believe you told us what he had! Daddy's not happy!I like the river bet myself. There are enough weak players who are calling with lots of hands (99, JJ, A6, etc) that this is a spot where you should bet your hand for value. Greekass didn't cap the turn, so you're hardly risking a raise here. He's passive enough that the value pays off. Hard to put this particular player on a winning hand here, but file that way for next time when he pops you on the turn when a ****ed up card comes off. Ice